Re: [RBW] Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Based on my experience, they don’t “break in.” It has nothing to do with the bearings. The notchiness is happening when super strong magnets inside the hub get close to metal parts—this is what makes the electricity. As the two approach each other, they attract and cause the “notch” feeling.

[RBW] Updates FS: Dirt Drop bars + stems

2021-04-28 Thread Eric M Cardella
Updates of what’s still available. Still $10 off if you bundle bar + stem. Handlebars: > > Soma Portola bar (26.0mm x 530mm end to end) - Very Good, tape residue and > brake lever marks - $40 or $30 with stem purchase > > Original Salsa Woodchipper bar 7075-T6 AL version (31.8mm x 46cm at

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
I changed my mind, the whole schlamozzle needs to go back to Analog. The hub isn't right, the headlight isn't right, and you're going to have the shop detach the headlght from hub and bike anyway. I say have them send the whole wheel and light back so James or Candice can test both and see

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh bother! Yeah, as someone else said I think that light needs to go back. Regardless of noise and notchiness at the dyno it's apparently sending current, the headlight just isn't getting it. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:16:26 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I desperately

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jay Lonner
I was wondering the same, but if the switch were off I don't think the tail light would come on either. Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:12 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > This is undoubtedly a stupid question but I like to hit the easy stuff > just in case it got overlooked (like

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Leah Peterson
I desperately tried all the positions - and remember, the taillight works. I wanted so badly for this to be the solution… Sent from my iPad > On Apr 28, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > This is undoubtedly a stupid question but I like to hit the easy stuff just > in case it got

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
This is undoubtedly a stupid question but I like to hit the easy stuff just in case it got overlooked (like the car dies and the mechanic calls to say it's out of gas): Is the light in the On position? My Googling tells me you have On/Off/Auto and I don't see that it's obvious which position

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Dukeman
Ask Peter if he would warranty the light and replace it. He replaced a light for me when the bracket broke. He is the #1 distributer in the USA On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 8:43 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > No, nice and tight. And this headlight has been testy for the bike shop, > too. Wouldn’t come on.

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Leah Peterson
No, nice and tight. And this headlight has been testy for the bike shop, too. Wouldn’t come on. When when the mechanic flipped the wheel so the hub is on the drive side, the lights both worked. He couldn’t explain WHY but at least the light was on. Now I have a lovely taillight and NO

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Dukeman
Connector at the hub come loose on the way home? Check for loose connecter. You will soon be an expert on dyno lighting systems On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 8:32 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Well. The taillight works great and the headlight didn’t work at ALL. I > now wonder if the Edelux is the issue???

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread rltilley
I have an older model SON that I got in 2000 or so and it only spins a few revolutions before stopping. I have 3 or so new SON’s and none of those have that friction. None of mine have been loud at all and I think the notchiness is part of the design. Magnets are in there and I don’t think

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Collin A
Leah, I (and Ben) would really recommend trying the dynamo system 1. without any lights to see how the hib rolls and 2. without the rear light to isolate any wiring issues. I've had my SON hub for more than a year now and it was never as notchy or dragy as yours (unless there was a short of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Leah Peterson
Eric: Yours is very quiet! But do I detect the tiniest sound? It sounds like my hub only mine was much louder. How long have this SON been in your employ? Joe: Good points, all. My SON only really has a few months of wear. The video I sent above was from December when I first thought the hub

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Next question for this saga, for folks who know and ride these things: Do SON hubs break in and get quieter as the miles pile up? Like they're extra stiff and notchy at first, but last longer than other dynos? Joe Bernard On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:54:15 PM UTC-7 Ben Miller wrote: >

[RBW] FS: Riv/Nitto Filet FacePlater 135mm length, 25.4mm clamp ($80+ship)

2021-04-28 Thread Nikko in Oakland
Hey y'all, This stem is too tall for my hunq's head tube, so it's on the chopping block. Some little weird scuffs that I can't explain from the previous owner. I tried to use degreaser to get 'em off but they must be something else. Shown in the photos. Save you some $ on sold out item!

[RBW] Re: Downsizing a Clem

2021-04-28 Thread Ben Miller
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing Marty! Cool perspective on the process of dialing in a bike. And I love VO Crazy Bars, so that's always a treat :) On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:23:03 PM UTC-7 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA wrote: > This popped up out of nowhere and I thought it was worth a

[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Sonoma Coast

2021-04-28 Thread Ben Miller
Kushan, Also, if you aren't aware, there is a separate Bay Area Riv group . Usually posts about local gatherings or meetups, but it's been pretty quiet during the pandemic. Hopefully things will pick up as we put this all in the rearview.

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Ben Miller
Leah, I'm happy to hear the wheel flip helped! Woohoo ! (Even if it is a mystery as to why??) I hope you now get your bike back and can enjoy those nighttime trails! As for the sound: it mostly sounds normal too me, but there is a secondary second in there that sounds like leaves rustling to

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Oh for Pete's sake! Yep, that's definitely quiet..quieter than the one I had by a lot. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 3:16:35 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote: > Leah: > > Here’s my SON 28 hub in action. It’s totally silent. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: For 22 years I've continually been surprised and repeated thrilled by my Road Custom

2021-04-28 Thread Robert Dowtin
This is all very interesting. We got 3+" of rain today or I'd be out verifying instead of typing to you all on my cell phone from my garage... Yeah the fork feels crazy supple, first impressions were as flexi as the Crust canti Lighting bolt fork. Anyhow, I think it's marvelous and can't wait to

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
Naturally I didn't actually answer the question pertaining to the video. That sounds normal based on my memory of doing the same hand-spin on my SON hub. It was kind of alarming, but seemed to work fine out on the road. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:44:18 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Wrong wiring: I mixed up ground and power wires. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:44 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > In the few cases I've felt "notchiness" it has been because the wiring to > the light/s was wrong. Forget exactly how, but fixing the wiring solved the > problem. > > IIRC, wrong wiring also

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
This is pretty vague "don't have them anymore" memory so grab that grain of salt and hope for more current real-world responses: My Dahon had some kinda generic-from-China dyno and it was sorta notchty. My Cheviot had a Shimano dyno which was similar. My Atlantis (built and bought from Analog)

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
In the few cases I've felt "notchiness" it has been because the wiring to the light/s was wrong. Forget exactly how, but fixing the wiring solved the problem. IIRC, wrong wiring also caused a "stuttering" sound in one case. FWIW. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:18 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Friends,

Re: [RBW] Re: For 22 years I've continually been surprised and repeated thrilled by my Road Custom

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Frankly I've never noticed or given much thought to the flex of the fork on the 1999. The bike is relatively comfortable even with 23s at 80/90 psi. The 2003 Curt, sold, was almost identical in design, but never felt as "fast" -- which is why I eventually replaced it with the new Matthews. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Dukeman
Make sure that your quick release is tight. And the axle is firmly in the drop outs. On both sides. On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 3:18 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Friends, > > One last thing. The shop called. They flipped the wheel and say the light > is now responding really well but the wheel is still

[RBW] Downsizing a Clem

2021-04-28 Thread Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA
This popped up out of nowhere and I thought it was worth a read. I don't think I had seen it here, so apologies if it has been posted before. My own 59 Clem H is nearly complete - will do a dial in ride tomorrow. Pics to follow next week as I'll be out of town for a few days.

[RBW] Re: WTB: Wide range double crankset

2021-04-28 Thread Nick Payne
The AT with a 127mm BB is going to have pretty much the same with at the pedal eyes as, for example, an XD with a 107mm BB. The reason for that is that the XD arms bow out about 10mm each from BB end to pedal end, whereas the AT don't bow out at all. The only possible problem with the AT might

Re: [RBW] Re: For 22 years I've continually been surprised and repeated thrilled by my Road Custom

2021-04-28 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I’m also a fan of earlier Riv ride and handling. I have a ‘95 Waterford made pre production sample for the road. It has lovely French curve forks of 531 while the frame is 753. Quick Waterford steering geometry and slack seat tube and long chain stay comfy Riv ride. It’s still my main bike.

[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Sonoma Coast

2021-04-28 Thread Kieran J
Welcome to the list! Super nice looking ride - I HAVE to get back to Nor Cal! :-P Kieran Victoria, BC On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 7:16:58 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote: > Hi all - > > I am new to this group and thought I'd start by posting about a recent > ride. > > I had some free-time

[RBW] Re: Which bottom bracket to get?

2021-04-28 Thread David Person
I had to learn from trial and error what Nick pointed out above. a 107mm BB was just a bit too short on the drive side for my bike, so I bought a 110mm only to find out the extra 3mm was on the non-drive side of the spindle. Had to buy a 113mm, which added 3mm to the drive side spindle vs

[RBW] Re: Which bottom bracket to get?

2021-04-28 Thread Joe Bernard
You're right. I always forget that. On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 2:28:05 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote: > AFAIK, the 107 and 110 will give the same chainline - the extra 3mm is all > on the non-drive side. > > Nick > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: WItTB: Wide range double crankset

2021-04-28 Thread Matthew P
I've been going through this with a Toyo Atlantis with curved chainstays, which "get wider sooner" (closer to the BB) than straight chainstays. That requires a wider BB/-spindle unless there is a straight section on the chainstays before the curve, as on my ~'84 StumpJumper. I am also pretty

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2021-04-28 Thread 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch
You deserve it, enjoy. I ran 700 x28’s on mine when I hade it. It was a great bike, as I am sure yours is. On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:40:19 PM UTC-4 Robert Dowtin wrote: > and Thank you for saying! I certainly agree! I don't know that I deserve > anything so gorgeous! > On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: For 22 years I've continually been surprised and repeated thrilled by my Road Custom

2021-04-28 Thread Paul Clifton
Patrick, Rob mentioned to me the compliance of the fork on his Road custom. How does the fork on your '99 compare to the others, especially the Mathews, since you said mentioned the tires evening things out. Would a smaller tire reduce pneumatic trail? I'll have to draw myself a picture. Is the

Re: [RBW] Re: Rides near the street where you live / attraction of single speeds / Monocog's continuing apotheosis.

2021-04-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Things will look much prettier in a few weeks, that is if we ever get a bit of rain. Green, such as even we get, is a bit late this year because of cold and drought. Yes, I'm lucky -- we don't even have many mosquitos or flies or ticks, tho' mosquitos do come from near river at full summer

[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Sonoma Coast

2021-04-28 Thread RichS
Kushan, Welcome to the group and congratulations on acquiring your first Riv. Thanks for posting the report and pics. What a spectacular route. You list members in NorCal have it going on in scenic and challenging rides:-) Best, Rich in ATL On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 1:02:35 AM UTC-4

[RBW] Re: Rides near the street where you live / attraction of single speeds / Monocog's continuing apotheosis.

2021-04-28 Thread RichS
Patrick, Some nice dirt trails you have in your neighborhood. Thanks for the pictures. I would agree on rewarding rides one can come up with close to home. I'm seven miles from downtown Atlanta but there is a plethora of wide neighborhood streets that offer rides that can combine paths and

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2021-04-28 Thread RichS
Robert, Congratulations! Your Riv custom is a stellar bike. Always a pleasure to see these classic Riv road bikes posted. I'm sure you'll enjoy many memorable rides on it. Best, Rich in ATL On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 10:40:19 PM UTC-4 Robert Dowtin wrote: > and Thank you for saying! I

[RBW] Re: FS Silver Sackville Banana Sax

2021-04-28 Thread Carla Waugh
Sold On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 8:41:59 AM UTC-5 Robert Dowtin wrote: > Very interested, sent a message. > > On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 12:53:38 PM UTC-5 Carla Waugh wrote: > >> This bag has been lightly used. 95.00 if you live somewhere near >> Oklahoma. Otherwise a small shipping

[RBW] Re: FS Silver Sackville Banana Sax

2021-04-28 Thread Robert Dowtin
Very interested, sent a message. On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 12:53:38 PM UTC-5 Carla Waugh wrote: > This bag has been lightly used. 95.00 if you live somewhere near Oklahoma. > Otherwise a small shipping amount. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Dim lighting on SON hub/Edelux II headlight

2021-04-28 Thread Peter White
There have been three versions of the SON hub for most bicycles. The first was for rim brakes only, designed in the early 1990s. The spoke flanges were polished aluminum, and they were connected by a black painted steel center section, similar to the construction of the early Phil Wood hubs. That

[RBW] Re: Which bottom bracket to get?

2021-04-28 Thread Nick Payne
AFAIK, the 107 and 110 will give the same chainline - the extra 3mm is all on the non-drive side. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to