Joe, that is what I should have done - plug the hole and wait for it to seal. I
never thought it would with two big holes, but it did. I rode my Platypus 8
miles with my boys yesterday and it was perfect. Today I did a club ride - 27
miles with the girls and we tore it up out there. Not a
I have the same tires on my Sam and sprung a leak after running over some glass
which is all over the place here in Los Angeles. After getting a good sealant
spraying I promptly covered the hole with my finger to stop any more air from
leaking out. To my surprise it sealed right up enough to
I don't think there's any truly strange places or people ... more like
things about ourselves we always know and choose to "forget" "in the
moment" Maybe the better term would be "dis-member", in order to
"re-member" ourselves.
Like a game of hide-and-go-seek !
Boo !
Who's there ?
Me
Hi Leah: It is Jay LePree with the Lime Olive Platy by Analogue. I am
late to this thread so pardon if I repeat things written already. Always
good to meet new riders and see their set ups. I have lived in North
Eastern NJ for the past 25 years. We are the area of Carbon Fiber racers.
Mensch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch
"Standup (gal)."
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:29 PM Leah Peterson
wrote:
> Toshi, YES, this was what I meant at the end of my post. Mine is but a
> fraction of the persecution that others face, so I can surely weather this.
> I am sorry to hear of
Mensch in the dictionary: a person of integrity and honor. I agree with
Patrick that you are certainly this!
Please let us know how the normal clothes celebration went. I'm very
curious!
On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 12:29:29 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
wrote:
> Toshi, YES, this was
Toshi, YES, this was what I meant at the end of my post. Mine is but a fraction
of the persecution that others face, so I can surely weather this. I am sorry
to hear of your poor treatment, especially in the Midwest where folks are
supposed to be inherently nice. I’m so happy to hear you are of
There is darkness and there is light. True fact.
On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:18:58 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
> The funny thing about "proving" myself is that the very act of "proving"
> only validates the very ass-umption that prompted the proving in the first
> place. To improve myself
My one and only attempt at a paceline was on a Romulus with drop bars,
nobody thought my bike was different from their's, it looked like a road
bike. Leah got hit for being on a pullback bar mixte cuz it didn't fit a
stupid norm someone expected.
PS. Holy cow I was slow on that ride! Never
Well again, Eric, there's this social dynamic known as "mob behavior" is
there not? That is, "... you are not like the rest of us, but you want to
behave like the rest of us are inferior to what we already have as known
and acceptable standards (be that frame material, road bike-like design,
Would Leah have been treated differently if she showed up on a steel IF
club racer? What about a carbon platypus, if there were such a thing?
The frame material doesn’t matter. Her bike style was unusual, and that
seemed to bring out some attitude from some club members. To attribute that
to the
Well, Eric, on what else would you blame the bad manners in club riding
other than "We've got our CF racing bikes ready to go and 'who are you?'
coming into our regular bike formations bringing this relaxed steel bike
frame bike?" Wouldn't you think it welcoming to any and all who wanted to
How again do exotic frame materials bring about bad manners in club riding?
I'm really not seeing a causal relationship there.
Eric
pretty much the same regardless of what frame material I ride
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 4:15 PM George Schick wrote:
> Something has happened to some of these local
As with everything, there can be good reasons for certain practices
initially, but people forget those reasons, and there's a slide... I can't
speak for what / how a given set of locals is doing it. My personal
experience with club rides has been overwhelmingly positive, whether it's
for fun
Something has happened to some of these local clubs over the decades. When
I was riding with head's down groups like the ones mentioned in this thread
back in the late 70's/early 80's they weren't like that. They all looked
out for each other and politely pointed out different things to
I just hope it stays fun, or more accurately you continue to find the fun
in it. Pacelines are notorious for attractng competitive grumpy people who
wouldn't know fun if it cracked them over the head with a carbon fork. Stay
away from those people!
Joe Bernard
On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at
Have you heard of the Velominati? see https://www.velominati.com/ , kind of
a tongue-in-cheek look at cycling etiquette and cyclists.
By showing up on a Rivendell, you have obviously violated rule number 4: *It's
all about the bike*, and a lot of other rules, too.
Laing
>>
--
You received
Hi Leah,
One crazy perspective that might be interesting to think about is what you
experienced that day was what I experienced every day of my life growing up
as a Japanese-American in the 80's in the midwest (OK a little hyperbole
there, but real). This is in the backdrop of Vincent Chin being
Leah: Thanks for more enthralling narrative about the paceline Platypus.
Max: Thanks for the interesting "apercus" on paceline etiquette.
While reading Max's description of paceline concerns, urgent niggling
images of Rivendell Hillbikes in pacelines kept afflicting my imagination,
with 75
Here's a decent primer on pacelines by GCN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDxXRq5fo8A
Much better to learn by doing, of course. :-)
Also, I promise you will enjoy this read immensely:
https://www.amazon.com/Rider-Tim-Krabb%C3%A9/dp/1582342903
And after you read that book, please watch
I see your point, Max. And I think you’re right. If I don’t fall into line
visually, then I might not be wise in their ways and therefore put the group at
risk. And that’s a fair concern because I don’t have paceline experience (yet).
We do not ride super tight or at 25 mph, and I hope we never
Roadies are snobby, but potentially with good reason. Let me explain...
While there CAN be plenty of groupthink and cultishness / exclusivity in
road biking and club cycling that I don't care for, there are some good
reasons to enforce a certain amount of conformity when riding fast on paved
This is disheartening to read but I'm glad you showed them that you can
hang with the group. I think there is a lack of understanding about
bicycles in general. I have learned much from the Rivendell philosophy and
Grant but even before that I don't think I would have spoken to someone as
that
Last night was the worst yet. There are a lot of group rides in the Club,
and once they all get used to seeing me I have hope of a normal, non-judgy
experience. But last night was brutal.
This is a women’s ride. You would think women would be more welcoming than
men, but I’m finding I have a
I did two group rides on a Clem and felt like I could not keep up well. The
group averaged about 16 mph so not super fast. But, I had not ridden much
prior to the ride and I had the stock Kenda tires that I think might have
contributed to my slow pace. There are mostly rolling hills in this
This recent club ride with the faster group got me thinking. If those
riders are smart, they'll put Leah at the head of the pace line most of the
time. With her sitting in a bolt upright position on that Platypus she'd
make an excellent wind break for those following. And from the sound of
Good for you Leah!
I have completed the two day 165 mile Cross Florida and the Valley Ride of
Six-Gap on my Bombadil - which has a diagatube and tentacles, so not the
lightest bike (or rider) at the events. I rode the Cross Florida with
Bullmoose bars and the Valley Ride with Noodle drops.
Leah: Good ride! A senior lady in our club can hang at 18 on flat roads on
her Clem L. She has made believers of many. Hills slow her down some, but she
can ride with whatever group she wants to. On one Sunday afternoon ride, my
friend Frank and I were felling peppy at about 18 mph and she
I moved the Racing Platypus into the faster class last night. It was 15-16
mph, and the route chosen was 26.4 miles. That’s the longest club ride I’ve
attended, and not knowing if I could keep pace made it a little terrifying.
The group was nice enough but skeptical. I was the last to arrive,
This is a great story - I love your open mindset to put yourself out there.
It's easy to feel like "I don't belong" to these types of groups when you
see people riding differently than you. So commendable.
last year I did a "Gravel Race" on my surly long haul trucker with upright
bars. So many
Leah, what a great account of trying a new aspect to cycling!
It's made even greater that you're doing it on a Platypus!
This thread was a fun read.
I enjoyed the insightful reply as well.
It sounds like many on this list have tried the faster group riding at one
time in their cycling
Leah,
Your successful foray club riding on a Platypus speaks to both your fitness
and open mindedness . From your fun-to-read account, it looks like you are
having a good two-way exchange of bicycle information with the club members.
Your experience got me thinking about all the times I've
Leah,
Keep having fun and making friends. It's all part of the bike journey.
I once showed up to an elite duathlon (bike+run) with my hybrid flat bar
bike with a back rack. I looked around at all the lycra kits and major
bikes and didn't really know any better at the time. I thought that
Yoshi - now this is a reasonable change I *would* make. I don’t even know what
tires I have on that bike right now - Teravail? I don’t know. I do have the
Gravel King slicks on the Clem, though. I’ve never really known much about
tires; I just told Analog what I was looking to do and they built
Bill: APPROVE
> On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Speaking of riots of color: My "Michigan Man" bike had boring black
> knobbies on it, that were skinnier than ideal. I swapped the tires out last
> night for chubbier slicks in RED!! I think Leah may approve of this
Speaking of riots of color: My "Michigan Man" bike had boring black
knobbies on it, that were skinnier than ideal. I swapped the tires out
last night for chubbier slicks in RED!! I think Leah may approve of this
color riot:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/51988644588
It's a
I agree with that, Toshi
I've ridden Carbon Fiber before (back in college) and it is light but not
that much different than a well set up Riv (in my experience)
MATHIEU BROWN
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:43 AM Toshi Takeuchi wrote:
> Hi Leah,
>
> I'm very excited and not surprised at all that
Hi Leah,
I'm very excited and not surprised at all that you are able to hang with
the fast crowd. Way to go!
I also doubt you will go carbon fiber, but I might not be surprised if you
ended up sporting some Rene Herse extra light tires in your pacelines.
Supple sidewall tires make a surprising
Bill! I laughed out loud, and I could use a laugh today. Riots of color ARE my
thing - is it that obvious?! And I’m impressed that you manage switching
between Eastern time and Pacific so well. It’s not hurt your wit, that’s for
sure.
The poor carbon bikes might be really good at what they’re
I strongly concur! And that's why Leah is da bomb!
Doug
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:19 AM Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Doug, I didn't mean it as a multiple choice. I meant it as three embedded
> layers of "it ain't gonna happen".
>
> The *strongest* layer of "ain't gonna happen" in Leah's case is C.
>
>
Doug, I didn't mean it as a multiple choice. I meant it as three embedded
layers of "it ain't gonna happen".
The *strongest* layer of "ain't gonna happen" in Leah's case is C.
A. 100:1 odds Maybe 20 years from now all bikes are carbon. She'd buy one
if that was the only way
B. 10:1 odds
Bill,
My answer to the multiple choices is all of the above!
Doug
On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:52:51 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Eric Daume jokingly asked: " how long until we see Leah on a black carbon
> Diverge?"
>
> If we're taking bets, put my money on the "don't hold your breath"
Eric Daume jokingly asked: " how long until we see Leah on a black carbon
Diverge?"
If we're taking bets, put my money on the "don't hold your breath" box.
LOL!
A. I bet she won't ever ride carbon
B. If she ever rides carbon it won't be from Specialized
C. If she ever rides a carbon
Good for you and congratulations. We'll want to hear further club riding
experiences. Also, we'll want to know each and every one of the lightening
tricks to get the Platypus down to CF road bike weight.
Me, I'll bet Leah buys a tricked-out Roadeo before the year is out ...
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