Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-26 Thread lconley
Aluminum will work harden - stressing and pushing it out of shape makes it stiffer, but more brittle. Forging aluminum is a controlled process to impart the desired stiffness and strength to a specific aluminum alloy through work hardening. Think about bending the straight part of a hanger

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
Cranks don't break because you were so strong you snapped them, like breaking a stick over your knee.  I've had *four* cranks break on me, three through the pedal eye and one straight across the middle, and one other that had a crack originating at the pedal eye that I found before it

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Bill Schairer
I know that people do break cranks but I have never ever understood how? It just seems like there lots of other things that should fail before the crank would assuming everything is operating at all less than totally frozen. In any case, I’m pretty darn sure that I don’t have the strenght to

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 4:00:19 PM UTC-7, David Wadstrup wrote: > Sounds like the WI VBC might be the way to go should I find myself able to > deal with the black rings. > Black chainrings aren't all bad. They mask the chain grease and make filthy drivetrains look presentable. :)

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread David Wadstrup
This is all so much to think about thank you everyone. I'm particularly appreciative of the run down on gearing. You're right, this is something the could determine crank choice, and so is something I should think about a little more deeply before pulling the trigger. I really wish I

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Patrick Moore
That indeed would be the theoretical reason; not age. Good point. Next question: is there any useful and accurate *practical* guidance -- rules of thumb -- for retiring aluminum cranks, seatposts, bars, stems, and so forth? Bills' reply reminds me of Grant's long-ago and wonderful metaphor:

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I carry spare crank arms in my jersey pockets* . Bill "thunder-thighs" Lindsay El Cerrito, CA *I do not actually carry spare crank arms in my jersey pockets, or anywhere else for that matter On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 2:26:26 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > Well if your legs are

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Justin, Oakland
Well if your legs are as heavy as Jan says then you’ll have to get new cranks soon Billl! -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Somebody claimed to have read somewhere that aluminum weakens over time. Patrick Moore asked for more details, and sounds skeptical. I took my materials science classes a fairly long time ago, but you are right to be skeptical, Patrick Moore. Aluminum most certainly does NOT change material

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Patrick Moore
"Also, I read some somewhere(maybe a Riv Reader) that metals, and aluminum in particular, weaken significantly with age." I'd like to see the article and review the evidence. I myself have heard nothing said about age as such making metals generally, or aluminum in particular, less strong.

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Bill Schairer
Personally, I’d go vintage and choose chainrings using a gear chart. I don’t undersand the concept of “stock” chainrings but it seems people buy whole new cranks to change gearing. Of course, I friction shift and maybe that’s the difference but a big reason I prefer friction is because of the

Re: [RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
Why have you ruled out the Rene Herse crank? On 10/25/18 8:23 AM, David Wadstrup wrote: I’m really unsure about this component choice. There are only two cranksets currently in production that I’m considering. That I know of, that is. I’d love to hear of others if you know of any. 1.

[RBW] Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

2018-10-25 Thread David Wadstrup
I’m really unsure about this component choice. There are only two cranksets currently in production that I’m considering. That I know of, that is. I’d love to hear of others if you know of any. 1. White Industries VBC. This is the one I’d like to choose, but their rings only come in