[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Hi All, I noticed that in this little blurb, Grant never said "need"--just "how many"--And if you think about it, it matches up pretty well with the current Riv lineup: a beater: Clem a bomber: Gus/Susie a single speed: Quickbeam / Frank Jones (not current but let's roll with it) a touring

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I kept my 2003 Curt road custom hanging on the wall for several years while I commuted on beaters; nice beaters but not Rivendells. Commuting was the bulk of my riding. The absurdity of this led me to have Dave Porter modify the Curt for a fixed drivetrain and use as a daily commuter. The

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DavidP, Thanks for sharing that bit from Grant. Makes sense to me and seems a little more reasonable than 'seven is good'. Piaw, A broken frame seems a great reason to own a second bike, and this is exactly what prompted me to add the Atlantis to my already special Hunq. My Hunq broke once

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I lived for many years with one road bike, and I think it was great. Having fewer decisions as to which bike to ride was great, and I perversely enjoy wearing out tires and chains at a good clip --- makes me feel like I'm a real cyclist. I did break the frame twice, and each time it kinda sucked

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

In the March blahg, Grant revisits the idea of preservation vs use and writes: "For daily tasks like shopping, commuting, errands, and all-purpose exercise, ride your favorite bicycle. A the risk of sounding self-serving, I'd say--get more than one special bike. You probably do that, or want

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Guy - Those are some great bikes, I wish I could help slim down the herd, but my frame size is smaller. Is there a story for how you ended up with so many 2022 bikes? S On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote: > I have way too much overlap in my quiver: > >

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Clearly you are in violation with multiple project bikes. It is even more clear to me that you should send the MMM on to me, in order to get into compliance... You're welcome! Bill On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:12:16 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote: > I have yet to complete the MMM or the Rosco

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Laing Maybe you have too many single speeds, but you definitely have too many mixtes. In order to restore balance in the universe, I recommend you sell your medium mountain mixte* to me. Please and thank you. Every stable should have one bike with a lift-a-tube, and that's an empty slot in

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Let's see: Beater - Flying Pigeon Bomber - Gust Boots Willsen, Crust Scapegoat Single speed - Protoveloosa/Mystery Bike, Frank Jones Sr., Trek District, Velo Orange Neutrino, Maxway Resurectio, another Flying Pigeon Touring Bike - Bombadil Lightish Road Bike - Rivendell Custom, Gitane Tour de

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Awesome! I’ve enjoyed reading through this thread. Beater - Quickbeam Bomber - Stooge Scrambler (on the way), and the Fitz Singlespeed - Quickbeam (fixed) and Fitz (at the moment), and Swobo Accomplice (kickback wheel) Touring bike - Frances and Fitz I’ve bike camped on, Bruce Gordon could

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

When you pull a bike off the wall/roof and pump up the tyres and the tubes fail because they are so old you have too many bikes. Signed, Brendon sold-a-car-to-buy-another-Rivendell McLoughney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

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I feel like I'm in good company in this thread! Current fleet is at six, which I feel is excessive, but at the same time each bike stands apart from the others in terms of function. I would like to get it back to five by the end of the year, but this plan involves selling two bikes I love, so

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It's in the thread, scroll up and look harder. It's not an article, it's a small sidebar. On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 8:55:40 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote: > Does anyone have a scan of the You Need 7 Bikes article? Need for a > friend. Not me, no spouse, and I'm almost there with two

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Wesley, ha! Yes, you are so right. The answer to the bike problem is….Platypuses. The more, the better. Racing Platypus. Beast of Burden Platypus. And toss in one Clem L so you can be a Nasty Mountain Biker. BOOM. Done. Photos in the next post. On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 9:01:09 PM

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

We know from Bicycle Belle Leah that the mixte can be the lightish road bike, the do-all racked and fendered bike, or the beater - at least. So you really only need six (eight?). -W On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 5:16:47 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Tom — This appeared as a little

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Does anyone have a scan of the You Need 7 Bikes article? Need for a friend. Not me, no spouse, and I'm almost there with two frame/forks hanging on the wall. Mike SLO CA On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 9:48:56 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > In my garage, I have: > > 1. Custom touring bike

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

In my garage, I have: 1. Custom touring bike 2. Rivendell Roadini 3. Airborne Seeker MTB 4. Co-Motion Tandem/Triplet/Quad Periscope 5. Wife's Cheviot 6. Wife's Santa Cruz 5010 MTB 7. 11-year-old's MTB 8. 7-year-old's MTB For many years I lived with just 1 road bike (the ti custom), but after I

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Thanks Eric. That is it. I thought it was a longer article. i really appreciate the effort. I guess I need 14, since I have 6 mountain bikes on top of my 7 road and dirt road bikes. Not up to Mr. Lindsay, as far as curating them all to perfection, but it is a goal. There was also a thread a

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Kudos to Eric for finding that blurb in RR42! Always fun to re-read those. This discussion has another dimension in my case. Living in Wisconsin, with children and grandchildren in California and Maine, I have to ponder the right number of bikes in each location. :-) Ted Durant Milwaukee WI

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Agree with lconley about the entire resource issue compared to owning a car. I would also say that I have just about one bike for each decade of my life, with some of them old enough to have been purchased in said decade. The reality is that these bikes are a small bop in my impact on the

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In order to achieve a true “Fellowship” of Rivendells, the number would be 9. 慄‍♂️On Mar 30, 2023, at 9:46 AM, lconley wrote:Of all the things in life that I feel guilty about or fret over, owning too many bikes is not among them. There is maybe 250 total lbs of steel among all of them, 750 lbs

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Of all the things in life that I feel guilty about or fret over, owning too many bikes is not among them. There is maybe 250 total lbs of steel among all of them, 750 lbs of of material total. If you own an average American pickup truck or SUV, you have consumed more resources than me and a

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Rivendell group, right? There are four correct responses to the 'right' number of rings bikes: 1 3 7 9 So everyone was right. Well done! On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote: > Hi all, > I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with >

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John, a breath of fresh air. Steve On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 9:33 PM John Rinker wrote: > At the risk of taking this discussion in an unintended direction and > opening a can of worms that, in my mind, has been opened for quite some > time now, I find this question of how many bikes one ‘needs’

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

My idea of multiple bicycles includes two or more like frame of varying colors and themes. A variety of setups : bars, wheels, tires, paint colors, etc. I love having two or more like items of varying colors. I do it with clothes and shoes all the time. Frankly that's what every bike/thing is

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Seems like most of those categories could be covered by a Clem (or a Platypus) with racks if one stretches the definition of "mixte"' and "beater". Of course there is no right number and we all do this mental gymnastic to convince ourselves that we "need" the amount of bikes we have (or +1).

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

I believe Grant's premise for the article was "how many bicycles do I need to cover all the stuff l can do on bicycles", it wasn't an arbitrary number of bikes I need. Obviously nobody needs more than one, it was a discussion geared towards people reading a bike magazine and having the cash to

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

At the risk of taking this discussion in an unintended direction and opening a can of worms that, in my mind, has been opened for quite some time now, I find this question of how many bikes one ‘needs’ to be an interesting one to consider from a variety of perspectives. (Full disclosure:

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Nice find, Eric. I like that the number shifts to 9 to give some wiggle room - because that is that number I have that I can (kind of) justify. Then there are the bikes I have but don't need (but still get ridden). Then there are the unicycles (which are just for fun). -Dave (who should

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

The problem is, there is always justification for another bicycle, like the relatively new bikepacking designs (Jones Bikes for example) which also do a very good job of displacing conventional touring bikes. Or a foldable Brompton, just because. Then there is sentimentality, like my beloved

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

I surely appreciate your dedication. Your definition makes sense, given the idea of "bombing down a hill" klunker-style. On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:29:14 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah! It took more looking than I want to admit, I was going back and > forth between my catalog

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Yeah! It took more looking than I want to admit, I was going back and forth between my catalog scans and my shelf of the Complete Rivendell (all readers, all catalogs). Worked through the Readers in reverse-chronological order until I found it. I *think* by bomber he means a stout trail bike

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Nice to finally have an authoritative value from Grant for "n", which I seem to have forever struggled with back in high school Calc class. Of course, since I'm single, I'll need to factor that in and carry the one, which leaves me with "N x 2" or a total of 18. Bingo!, which is exactly

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Thanks for finding that, Eric! ...could someone educate me on the term "bomber" in this context? On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Tom — This appeared as a little blurb in Rivendell Reader No. 42 on > page 6 (online in the Rivendell archive here >

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Hi Tom — This appeared as a little blurb in Rivendell Reader No. 42 on page 6 (online in the Rivendell archive here ). [image: Screenshot 2023-03-29 at 8.14.15 PM.png] On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4 Tom Palmer wrote: > Hi all, > I

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

I agree that three feels right for me, but which three is the eternal question: Currently: - Proto-Gallop 61.5 - set up with Albatross as daily commuter - 2TT Bombadil 60 - set up with Bullmoose and slicks to cover my touring dreams - Hunqapillar 58 - set up with Jones bar and 2.1

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Agree that three is a good target (road, mountain, utility), so why am I at seven? I feel a sale coming up. This topic always reminds me of the Peter Egan column asking how many motorcycles you need. He comes out to five, with much of the same rationale we use for bikes. I'm at zero there :(

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I've already gotten rid of a couple and still need to drop one... I think 3 is the magic number Currently: 2009 Hillborne, canti 56cm (Original Green , recently painted Harvest Gold) - 700x43 2017 Appaloosa 55cm (Silver) - 29x2.1 2019 Cheviot 60cm (metallic Blue) - 700x50 2004 Romulus, canti 59cm

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

My recollection of the article is that Grant arrived at 9 being the sensible number. One of the nine on Grant's list was a "project bike", and there was at least one single speed. The "project bike" slot struck me as the GP version of "N+1" because whenever you finish the project then the

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

I have way too much overlap in my quiver: 2015 Soma San Marcos (Tiburon Blue) - 57cm 2018 Atlantis (650B) - 56cm 2022 Crust Canti Romanceur (Pistachio) - 57cm 2022 Sam Hillborne (HiHo Silver) - 57cm 2004ish Rambouillet (Joe Bell Custom Brown) - 60cm 2022 Wolbis/Susie (Dark Gold) - 56cm 2021 Gus

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

Bikes in order of use: 1. Brand new Platypus for City riding 2. Spectrum titanium road bike (frame fabricated by Seven) for clipped in rides and longer road tours 3. Rambouillet for more spirited city rides. 4. Sam outfitted as a gravel bike for country rides 5. Xtracycle cargo

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Bikes in order of use 1. Joe Appa daily driver 2. Raleigh sprite vintage fixed for variety in commute 3. 90's GT avalanche for occasional MTB'ing 4. Dahon boardwalk guest bike I will occasionally use 5. Vintage Schwinn tandem for occasional fun ride. Kickback 2 speed Apparently I

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

That works out great for me as I have 7 in the current rotation 1-Velo Orange Polyvalent V1.0 - SS with fenders 2-80something Miyata Touring Bike, albatross bars with a basket on a front rack 3-Soma Wolverine 1x11 Gravel Bike 4-Handsome XOXO 2x9 with Moustache bars and RTPs 5-Surly Big Dummy

[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

I think I had the number three in my head from a Rivelo post. I feel like I only need two versatile bikes. On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:45:16 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote: > Hi all, > I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with > justification. I think it was