[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread EricP
It does still seem there are big differences in "east coast" versus "west coast" riding style. (Thinking back to the 1980's when Fat City went with short stays and steep angles for tight trails.) I liked the 29er I had. Although if I get another mountain bike in the future, it will be a shocked

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 9, 5:54 pm, Michael_S wrote: > By accident I ended up with a steep head angle and long rake fork on my 1st > 29er.  I felt that it handled just as quick . . good to know. > Of course terrain is a big driver. Here in California we have more open > riding terain so a 29er seems more suitab

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Michael_S
Patrick, as in all bikes, geometry is a big factor is ride quality, manuverability, and quickness. 29ers are no exception. By accident I ended up with a steep head angle and long rake fork on my 1st 29er. I felt that it handled just as quick as any of the 10+ 26ers I've rode since the early '8

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread René Sterental
For someone like you, I agree. You're not a beginner and 29ers have become much more nimble and agile. It makes the purchasing decision come down to whether you just follow the latest fads, resist them and use what you always did, or keep adding bikes to the garage so you can develop long term expe

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 9, 2:42 pm, René Sterental wrote: > , , , All these elements combined make the learning curve feel easier and > more fun, IMO. okay, I can see that. not sure I agree, but I can see it. FWIW, I plan on spending some more time on a 29er. I just haven't been able to come to any conclusi

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread René Sterental
Patrick, I didn't want to make it too complicated. IME, a 29er hardtail will "slow down and smooth out" any given trail from a subjective perspective compared to a 26er. This means tha for a beginner, it will be easier and less scary to learn the appropriate skills, have fun while doing so and get

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 9, 12:11 pm, René Sterental wrote: >The big wheels have given him a sense of stability, the confidence to know >that he > can roll over pretty much anything that is still cross-country and has > enabled him to acquire much better riding skills. so he didn't try a 26er? afterall, 26inch

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Jim Mather wrote: > Several successful women racers are on 29ers, including Willow > Koerber, Katie Compton, and Georgia Gould. > Toe clip overlap is an issue at very low speeds. Women racers, I imagine, don't spend a lot of time at very low speeds. But I do. As e

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread René Sterental
I'm sure that is correct for experienced riders regardless of their fitness. However, I can vouch that for beginner riders such as my 12 year old son, riding a 29er will be very confidence inspiring as compared to a 26er when you're talking hardtails. He used to be very skittish and scared of mount

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Jim Mather
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Patrick in VT wrote: > the only conclusion i draw there is that it's still about the rider more > than the bike/wheel size. Of course that's the case. I responded to a query about whether 29ers were only for tall riders. -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread Patrick in VT
On Aug 5, 6:51 pm, Jim Mather wrote: > Several successful women racers are on 29ers, including Willow > Koerber, Katie Compton, and Georgia Gould. I get to race with Lea Davison (another World Cup level pro MTB racer on a 29er) and some other elite/pro racers at my weekly local MTB series. i hav

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-09 Thread stevef
I had a thunk when I was bashing around at Fort Custer Recreation Area on my 650b-wheeled, custom Curtlo Softail yesterday. I don't doubt that larger wheels bridge closely spaced bumps and help smooth the ride over washboards and root beds, and add a bit of stability. But I wonder how much of

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-06 Thread Michael_S
Chauncey Matthews from Belen NM. Small builder but seems to have the right craftsman skills. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-06 Thread Anne
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Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread cyclotourist
Victoria? On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Jim Mather wrote: > Hunter? Black Cat? > > On 8/5/11, Michael_S wrote: > > I t will be a surprise. Hint, I met him at SD bike show. > > It also has a curved top tube. and just one bi-lam lug at seat tube/ top > > tube. The rest is fillet brazed. > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Mather
Hunter? Black Cat? On 8/5/11, Michael_S wrote: > I t will be a surprise. Hint, I met him at SD bike show. > It also has a curved top tube. and just one bi-lam lug at seat tube/ top > tube. The rest is fillet brazed. > > ~mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread Michael_S
I t will be a surprise. Hint, I met him at SD bike show. It also has a curved top tube. and just one bi-lam lug at seat tube/ top tube. The rest is fillet brazed. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discus

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread cyclotourist
Tease... who is the builder FWIW, the Brooks Swift makes a pretty good off-road saddle. But I like my WTB Devo/Diva more. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Michael_S wrote: > I used one of the Fisher designed Fox front shocks with a 51mm offset. In > combination with a 72d head angle on the

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread Michael_S
I used one of the Fisher designed Fox front shocks with a 51mm offset. In combination with a 72d head angle on the Mary it steered very crisply in singletrack. It helps toe overlap too but as mine was an large frame it wouldn't have been a problem. The lower trail works amazingly well off road.

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread Jim Mather
Several successful women racers are on 29ers, including Willow Koerber, Katie Compton, and Georgia Gould. Gould is 5'9" and the others are shorter. If you're interested, find a well designed 29er (Niner, Fisher, Orbea, Giant, to name a few) and try it. Don't assume they're only for tall riders. On

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread Montclair BobbyB
For offroad (especially technical riding), I am sold on my 29er... It just WORKS http://tinyurl.com/3r2nwyt http://tinyurl.com/3gfx8qh On my StumpJumper all-arounder 26 just feels perfect... On my Bombadil, 29 feels about as good as it could possibly get In short I love the way they both roll...

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread EricP
Yup. A co-worker who owns a Bleriot used to have a Surly Karate Monkey 29er. Had toe overlap. She now has a Surly Troll. 26 inch wheels. For reference, her Bleriot is about a 51cm frame. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 5, 12:56 am, cyclotourist wrote: > Yes, and/or real steep HT/ST angles to

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-05 Thread Eric Daume
Gary Fisher and some other makers use a slacker head angle and a fork with more offset to reduce toe overlap. Eric On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Michael_S > wrote: > > > So when 29er's came on the scene, I tried a Haro Mary hardtail and

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-04 Thread cyclotourist
Yes, and/or real steep HT/ST angles to get the tires to fit. Same as any 700C bike in small sizes, but then exaggerated with the larger tires. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Michael_S > wrote: > > > So when 29er's came on the scene, I tri

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-04 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Michael_S wrote: >  So when 29er's came on the scene, I tried a Haro Mary hardtail and I was > quickly converted, The speed you can carry on the downhills, the increased > security in the corners. In fact I no longer wanted or needed rear > suspension. Are you 29e

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-04 Thread Michael_S
I have ridden mountain bikes from inception, circa 1983. I rode my road bike off road in the late '70's before the MTB came to be on the national level but there just weren't the 700c tires available to do more technical terrain. So I switched and rode MTB's almost exclusively. Rigid bikes with

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-04 Thread EricP
When I had a larger wheel mountain bike, I liked the feeling. However, hand issues are going to prevent me from ever being a mountain biker again. Unless I go to suspension. Although maybe a fat bike of some sort would work. 3.7 or 4.5 inch wide tires might give enough cushion. 650B did not work

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread brian tester
The Hunqapillar definitely turned me on to the bigger wheels concept for mtb-ing. I wasn't expecting to like it as much, but the big wheels do roll nicely over rough ground. You get a pretty large contact patch to stick to things with. -Brian On Aug 3, 5:55 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > If I were st

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
Hmmm, must ponder the implications of that... On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 17:55 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: > > If I were starting over in the bike thing, I would have all 650b. As > > it is, I'm pretty financially committed to 700C... > > > Ma

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 17:55 -0700, cyclotourist wrote: > If I were starting over in the bike thing, I would have all 650b. As > it is, I'm pretty financially committed to 700C... Maybe so now, but most ardent 650B fans were equally committed to 700C at one time. -- You received this messag

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
If I were starting over in the bike thing, I would have all 650b. As it is, I'm pretty financially committed to 700C... On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Leslie wrote: > 650B! > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread Leslie
650B! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T9aQHFe2VasJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsu

[RBW] Re: 26 vs 29...thought I knew which side I was on.

2011-08-03 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I had a similar experience coming form 26" MTBs... had a B'stone MB2 for the 90's, then sold it when I ended up riding my then RB-T and then my All-Rounder exclusively on the trails. Decided I wanted to get back into actual mountain biking and ended up with a Karate Monkey. What, a great bike! N