[RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
It's basically the same, just a little stiffer. The L has a smidge of flex in the frame that shows up if you load a bunch of weight on it (some folks I've mentioned this to say they don't notice it, YRMV). Grab that H, it's a good frame! On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 9:02:34 AM UTC-7 fra...@

[RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread iamkeith
I answered a similar question in more detail a while ago in other threads, and can try to direct you to them when I have time at a real computer. Short summary: I got a Susie thinking it would be a replacement for my clem Clem H, assuming it would be similar with a few minor improvements. In

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-03 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you for the offer, I’m looking at a 59. Just trying to decide if I can justify it as a companion to my Susie. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 3, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's basically the same, just a little stiffer. The L has a smidge of flex > in the frame that shows

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-03 Thread Bill Lindsay
" if I can justify it" You are in the right place to get help on that. HAHA! BL in EC On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 11:45:00 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thank you for the offer, I’m looking at a 59. Just trying to decide if I > can justify it as a companion to my Susie. > > Sent f

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
Offer? I don't have one for sale, I'm just saying they're good. As for it being a good companion to a Susie that depends on what you're looking to do. If you want racks and bags to go shopping and the Susie is set up as a mountain bike, well there ya go. Different bikes for different stuff!

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-03 Thread Ryan Frahm
Sorry Joe, I was on my phone replying o a private message and for some reason my phone decided it went here instead! Thank you for the information on the frame! On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > Offer? I don't have one for sale, I'm just saying they're good.

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-03 Thread Ryan Frahm
That much I do know Bill! Haha! On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 12:44:40 PM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Sorry Joe, I was on my phone replying o a private message and for some > reason my phone decided it went here instead! Thank you for the information > on the frame! > > On Wednesday, August 3,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you for the thoughts Richard, nice looking bike! I do like the idea of the step thru on these. Especially for loading it up while pulling my daughter in the trailer. I don’t have any trouble getting a leg over but sometimes it could be a benefit. On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:59:11 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Alex K
I have a Clem L and a Clem H. The L has 18 speeds (2X9) and the L has 11 (1X11). The L was a stock build and cost me $1750 from Riv direct, though I later added an Atlas wheel set with Deore hubs. The H cost me about $4000 all told, built up with nicer parts, dynolights, and the frame cost

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
Interesting Keith! I definitely plan to use a Clem as my main commuter to haul groceries and my daughter around. I absolutely love my Susie but hate leaving it locked up outside when we are going in anywhere for more than a few minutes. Do you find the Susie BB too high? It is low to me coming f

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
Thank you for the comparison Alex! I’d love for the Clem to be fun for a bit faster riding but I wasn’t expecting it to be so your comments about the L vs H are nice to hear! Though the parts difference on them make a huge difference I’m sure. The H I’m looking at has some upgrades over stock.

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Richard Rose
In this comparison it would certainly be nice to know the weights of each bike & how much of that weight difference is in the wheels / tires. I cannot imagine much difference in the weight of the frames? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2022, at 12:37 PM, Alex K wrote: > >  > I have a Clem L

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread maxcr
Did you see this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255655578437?hash=item3b86428b45:g:dJ4AAOSwqEli1Y2Q On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Thank you for the offer, I’m looking at a 59. Just trying to decide if I > can justify it as a companion to my Susie. >

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
That’s the one I’m looking at! On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:47:05 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: > Did you see this one: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/255655578437?hash=item3b86428b45:g:dJ4AAOSwqEli1Y2Q > > On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Thank you for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread maxcr
Hi Bob, What's your gearing on that awesome Clem? Chainring / cassette combo? Thanks Max On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:56:30 PM UTC-4 Bob Ehrenbeck wrote: > My 52 Clem H serves me as both my trail bike AND my town bike. : ) It's > super versatile, comfortable, and rides beautifully. > > My

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Jeremy Till
I have a first-gen, 59cm Clem H, and my experience follow's Alex's. I have an Xtracycle Edgerunner that fills the Dutch-bike-upright, low step-thru, big-load-and-kid hauling niche for me, so my Clem is a unloaded, light and zippy MTB, with Jones Loop bars, WTB saddle, and 2x9 MTB drivetrain with

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Bob and Jeremy, those are some very nice looking Clem’s! On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:13:25 PM UTC-7 Jeremy Till wrote: > I have a first-gen, 59cm Clem H, and my experience follow's Alex's. I have > an Xtracycle Edgerunner that fills the Dutch-bike-upright, low step-thru, > big-load-and

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
> Hey Bob and Jeremy, those are some very nice looking Clem’s! > Thanks! And to answer Max's question, I'm running a White Industries 36-tooth chainring and an 11-42 MicroShift Advent 9-speed cassette. (Also, an Advent 9-speed derailleur and thumbie in friction mode.) Bob E Cranford NJ -- Y

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread iamkeith
On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 10:46:15 AM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > Interesting Keith! I definitely plan to use a Clem as my main commuter to > haul groceries and my daughter around. I absolutely love my Susie but hate > leaving it locked up outside when we are going in anywhere for mor

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread iamkeith
Good taste, by the way. Your Chumba is designed to accommodate a suspension fork, right? That's probably why it feels so high. It needs to have bb clearance even when the fork is compressed. For a brief moment, I thought the Clem you're looking at was my old one (same size, color, fenders

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-04 Thread Ryan Frahm
That’s a lot of great information Keith, thank you for taking the time! First, the Chumba was made to use up to a 120mm suspension fork I believe. They are open about their higher than average bottom brackets. It was a very stable bike. The Susie was just a bike I’ve wanted since it came out. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-09 Thread John Johnson
Hi! I had a Clem H and my wife has the same size Clem L. I noticed right away there were a few differences; the L has a longer top tube, longer front center, and longer wheelbase. The difference in top tube length means bars fit differently, stem lengths will need to be adapted, etc. This is no

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem H curious

2022-08-09 Thread dustin schaber
I purchased a Clem H in 2017 after really digging my wife's L. I would've sprung for an L myself on account of how elegant the frame looks, but I was hooked on the mustard color and have no regrets. It's long, comfortable, and equally capable of commuting across town or bombing down fire roads