Hey Bob and Jeremy, those are some very nice looking Clem’s! On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 1:13:25 PM UTC-7 Jeremy Till wrote:
> I have a first-gen, 59cm Clem H, and my experience follow's Alex's. I have > an Xtracycle Edgerunner that fills the Dutch-bike-upright, low step-thru, > big-load-and-kid hauling niche for me, so my Clem is a unloaded, light and > zippy MTB, with Jones Loop bars, WTB saddle, and 2x9 MTB drivetrain with no > front derailleur. It feels fast and fun in this configuration, even with > relatively heavy wheels built around 36 hole Cliffhanger rims (natch). The > times that i've taken it on proper MTB trails I've been impressed by its > climbing ability on steep technical sections, although between kid, COVID, > and general lack of fitness, it's been quite some time since I've been able > to do a "real" MTB ride. Still plenty of fun on the gravel levees and > semi-legal riverside singletrack around here. > > I haven't ridden a Susie or Clem L and have only ridden a prototype Gus a > couple of years ago. My impression was that the Gus was stiffer and beefier > than the Clem. The Clem hasn't ever had any weight guidelines, but I think > given my weight and use case Riv would probably recommend a Gus for me now. > > Most recent picture of my Clem from last weekend: > > https://flic.kr/p/2nCkKpx > > -Jeremy Till > Sacramento, CA > > > > On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 9:37:22 AM UTC-7 ack...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> I have a Clem L and a Clem H. The L has 18 speeds (2X9) and the L has 11 >> (1X11). The L was a stock build and cost me $1750 from Riv direct, though >> I later added an Atlas wheel set with Deore hubs. The H cost me about >> $4000 all told, built up with nicer parts, dynolights, and the frame cost >> me a little extra as I had to source it from a shop in San Jose (Silva) >> which was holding on to the last unbuilt-up 52 H remaining in the world >> (that's my story and I'm sticking to it.) My H is super zippy and, at >> times, I feel like it is pushing me up the gravel fire roads in the Marin >> Headlands. The bike feels alive. My L is reliable and, outfitted with a >> Pass and Stow 5-rail rack, can carry 50lb. loads from Costco with very >> little wobble. I use it as my city commuter, and I enjoy every minute >> riding it, but it is definitely more Cadillac than Porsche. Were I to >> switch out the parts and ride my L with my H setup, I might be singing a >> different song, but my experience is that the H is much zippier, and the L >> a bit more of a workhorse. That's all I got. >> >> Alex >> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 7:12:44 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Thank you for the thoughts Richard, nice looking bike! I do like the >>> idea of the step thru on these. Especially for loading it up while pulling >>> my daughter in the trailer. I don’t have any trouble getting a leg over but >>> sometimes it could be a benefit. >>> >>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:59:11 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I have an “L” and I do notice the flex when loaded - but only standing >>>> still or just “pushing off”. Once moving the flex disappears. Of course >>>> any >>>> frame bags you might have are useless on the “L”. So I sold mine & have >>>> invested in traditional racks & bags. It’s all been worth it though as the >>>> step through is my favorite feature of the many features I love about this >>>> bike. Not saying don’t get the “H”, but the “L” is just so nice. >>>> [image: image0.jpeg] >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It's basically the same, just a little stiffer. The L has a smidge of >>>> flex in the frame that shows up if you load a bunch of weight on it (some >>>> folks I've mentioned this to say they don't notice it, YRMV). Grab that H, >>>> it's a good frame! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 9:02:34 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just finished my Susie build (first Riv) and I have never ridden a >>>>> bike like it. It brings comfort and riding enjoyment to an all time high >>>>> for me! I do however find it to be almost too nice! >>>>> >>>>> I was interested in waiting for a Clem L to come back in stock to use >>>>> as my grocery getter/winter bike to keep fenders on and haul more stuff. >>>>> I >>>>> found a Clem H for sale that I’m interested in though so I was hoping for >>>>> some opinions about the differences here! From what I can tell, the H >>>>> just >>>>> has a sleeper head tube angle and everything else seems to be about the >>>>> same. Do they ride similar? The H is a better deal as far as parts go >>>>> than >>>>> a complete. I’m also almost certain the complete will get a decent price >>>>> bump on the next run. The step thru is cool but not a huge deal for me. >>>>> Thoughts? Thanks in advance! >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3d67ab8f-20ae-4ec3-ade5-77bc1298f6c9n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3d67ab8f-20ae-4ec3-ade5-77bc1298f6c9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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