[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-07 Thread Ben Mihovk
If you do the newbaums and twine and shellac it, it will be pert near bulletproof. -Ben in Omaha On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 9:56:49 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots > of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. L

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-07 Thread Joe Grandia
I like to cut an old tube lengthwise and use that to wrap the chainstay. This gets the twine treatment just the same. Looks good to me, and works great. I'll try to upload a photo later. -Joe On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:57:51 AM UTC-8 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote: > If you do the newbaums an

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-07 Thread Ed Carolipio
If you don't want something fancy but does the job, you can use some "helicopter" tape to protect the frame: http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html (see middle of page) I keep a 1", 8 mill roll handy. For the chainstay, I use a couple of long strips along the chain stay then finish off with a coupl

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-07 Thread Paul Choi
3m paint protection film works well. You can remove it anytime. On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 7:56:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Wanting to protect the lovely long chainstay from chain slaps. I see lots > of folks using cloth tape, some with twine. Looks ok but seems like it wold > n

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-07 Thread Joe Bernard
3M is what I would do, I believe that's the product Joe Bell wrapped on my chainstay. I can't verify that this is a real problem but I always get queazy when I see steel and paint covered under all that cloth and twine, I don't know what's happening under there. Joe Bernard On Monday, Februar

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread RichS
Richard, As Ben noted, cloth and twine is "bulletproof" chain stay protection. One caveat though: if you ever decide to remove it, the adhesive quality of cloth hbar tape has the ability to remove paint (ask me how I know!). Riv sells these chain stay protectors - currently out of stock - and o

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Ryan
It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap guard for a $50.00 upcharge...but don't think it's really required. https://www.rivbike.com/products/custom-framesets Looked at my 3 Rivendells...and nope, nothing to see there. I don't recall this option ever coming up on

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread lconley
My Rivendell Custom came with extensive clear film over the chain stay. It is basically invisible, didn't know it was there until I was working on it real close up one day and saw the edge lines. Most of my other Rivendells came with a single clear piece of film like what they sell. I tried to g

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Ryan, My experience is just like Laing's, the whole chainstay is wrapped and I didn't notice for months. What I believe Grant means by "slap guard" is those old timey braze-ons touring bikes used to have that you would stretch a piece of leather between. He's not a stickler for paint staying

[RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Ryan
Oops...the fingernail test reveals that my 2001 Road and 2016 Mixte do have that clear protector you and Laing are talking about. They are Joe Bell paint jobs The allrounder is um...rather dusty, so I'm not going there. That was a Waterford which may or may not have the clear wrap...there is cl

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Joe Mullins
Wow thanks for the heads up about removing paint! I wonder if a heat gun on low would help prevent that… > > On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:02 AM, RichS wrote: > > Richard, > > As Ben noted, cloth and twine is "bulletproof" chain stay protection. One > caveat though: if you ever decide to remove it,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread R Shannon
Or, avoid the guesswork and use one of the other less invasive methods recommended. Best, Rich in ATL On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:04 PM, Joe Mullins wrote: > Wow thanks for the heads up about removing paint! I wonder if a heat gun > on low would help prevent that… > > > On Feb 8, 2022, at 8:02 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread R Shannon
One other observation. My Sam and Atlantis from 2014-15 came with clear chain stay protectors. Formerly standard equipment but now an option. Best, Rich in ATL On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:23 PM, Ryan wrote: > It's interesting that on Riv's Custom page they offer a chainstay slap > guard for a $5

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Patrick Moore
You can, or could, get NOS steel chainstay protectors a few years ago on eBay. I found a couple from a US seller. The closest thing I found just now on a quick search is this, UK and aluminum: https://www.velobitz.co.uk/chainstay-protectors/velobitz-vintage-retro-plain-aluminium-chainstay-protect

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread David Person
My 2015 Sam came with a clear protector too that is nearly invisible. When I wanted something similar for my Surly I purchased one of these Wheels Manufacturing clear chainstay protectors off eBay. Looks excellent. Now, the chainstays on the Sam (463 mm and on the Surly 450 mm) are nowhere ne

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Richard Rose
My Clem came with a single layer of clear material protection. Hard to see but it is there. Seems inadequate though? That is a long chain & I imagine it might sag quite a bit at times. In addition the cable running below the stay nearly hugs the stay. On other bikes I have experience paint scuff

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-08 Thread Nick Payne
My experience is that the clear stick-on plastic chainstay protection lasts for decades without visible deterioration. My late 90s Riv custom came with one installed, and it's still in place without visible damage - in fact it's very hard to see unless you look closely. And on my Bleriot, as wel

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-09 Thread John Rinker
Hey Rich, Not sure if you were referring to other protectors when you mentioned 'less invasive' or other methods of removing the cloth wrap. If the latter, where were these mentioned. May be time to remove mine. Cheers, John On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 3:24:27 AM UTC+9 RichS wrote: > Or

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-09 Thread R Shannon
Hello John: Apologies if my reply was confusing. I was referring to the 3M Paint Protection Film which Paul suggested. I haven't used it but it sounds like a good alternative - especially if you want to remove it at a later date. Hope that helps. Best, Rich in ATL On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 4:47 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem or other chainstay protection

2022-02-09 Thread John Rinker
No worries, Rich, and thanks for the reply. My 2005 Atlantis has the plastic film on the chainstay, and it looks just great after so many years. I'm thinking of unwrapping the tape from my Hunq stay, but your cautionary tale has left me...um...cautious. I'm now wondering how this might be accom