Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Indeed...that Paramount is something else... BB On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:25:22 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote: Awesome fleet. Best I have seen anywhere pretty much. On Aug 25, 2014 11:29 PM, rob markwardt robm...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Give me drop bars or give me wrist/ass

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
+1 on the DaVinci splitters...(for the serial swapper, that is... I was able to swap my Noodle drops and Bullmoose setup in literally 5 minutes!!) I have since been cured of my compulsion to do a weekly swap, but the DaVinci's do work rather well if set up correctly. BB On Monday, August

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-27 Thread Avery E Wilson
I may have to pick up some of those splitters, because besides one right shifter, I've got two complete cockpits. Also Bill - I had an hour or so this morning so I swapped in the Shimano levers. Wow! They lay quite a bit flatter, and so far I like the smaller grip hood. I also take back what I

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-27 Thread Avery E Wilson
A picture also proves I've got that sweet old bike. It was my dad's bike in high school, and I rescued it from grandpa's barn and did a little ressurectio job on it while preserving the beausage. https://flic.kr/p/oWfV9T On Aug 27, 2014 10:41 AM, Avery E Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote: I may

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Jim Bronson
Awesome fleet. Best I have seen anywhere pretty much. On Aug 25, 2014 11:29 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: Give me drop bars or give me wrist/ass pain!! Didn't Abe Lincoln say that? Anyway...not a swapper here. The bars on my Bleriot have been there for close to eight

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Avery E Wilson
https://flic.kr/p/oVzM7q Bill, is this better? I couldn't find the video you mentioned, but I found a description on rbw of how to set them up. Please give all the constructive advice you can! I want to have a properly set up drop bar bike to give drops the chance they deserve. Thanks Avery On

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Avery, Here's the Riv video on setting up Nitto Noodles and Shimano brake levers: http://youtu.be/oEUm3VzF_Z0 I think the rubber hoods on the Shimano levers and the shape of the Noodles are particularly well matched. There's a smooth transition from the ramps to the hoods. I have the

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
That's much better. You probably could even take the brakelevers a little bit higher if you wanted to, but that flat area on the ramps looks a lot better now. Leave them unwrapped for a good long while. Wrap them when you are sure they are dialed and you are convinced you want to keep drops.

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Avery E Wilson
https://flic.kr/p/oDa3qz I actually have some Shimano levers, but I like grabbing the big chunky hoods of the tektros. They copied campy ergos I think. I also feel like the tektro trp levers are more powerful, at least with Paul centerpulls than the Shimano levers. Anyways there's a shot of

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Ryan
It does...I like the drop bars better, but if you're truly happier with the Albatrosses, then use the Albatrosses. That's such a classy bike, it makes anything look good On Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:01:46 PM UTC-5, Avery Wilson wrote: Click here for a photo of the same bike with drops

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm probably guilty of offending Bill, too. Brakelever setup is the last thing that would offend me. It might provoke me to give un-asked-for advice, but that advice is always intended to help. Promise! I think that's about as good as you (Takahashi-san) can do it with that model of

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
and your Hunqapillar is spectacular. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:39:03 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: I'm probably guilty of offending Bill, too. Brakelever setup is the last thing that would offend me. It might provoke me to give un-asked-for advice, but that advice is always

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Avery Wilson
Also - Went on a decently longish test ride last night and I have determined that I am just an albatross bar man. I have to throw my preconceived notions of what a road bike looks like out the window and realize that I'm happier and more comfortable on Albatross bars. I don't really have a

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Takashi
Hi Avery I am happy to see another cockpit swapper! I swap handlebars very often. Noodle on Dirt Drop 8cm stem https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/14130158365/ Albatross on Nitto Technomic 10cm stem, with Dia Compe hand rests https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8160613734/

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Richard L.
Avery, Your Hilsen looks great with either bar, just different. To help you with your racer past, maybe you should find a Roadeo for your drop bars, and leave the Albatross on your Hilsen. Don't worry, you won't have to sign up for Frame Swappers Anonymous. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Avery, I swapped around a fair bit till I found handlebar paradise with the Albastaches. Albatross, Bosco, Moustache, and noodles. Sounds like you may have found the cure with the Albatross! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Another h-bar swapper here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/stakx/sets/72157644332271299/ - 48cm Noodles on 10cm Nitto Lugged Stem - Albatross on 12cm Tallux Stem - Moustache (classic) on 7cm Technomic Stem - Bullmoose (not Bosco) I have them set up for my Hunqapillar with DaVinci

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Avery Wilson
I have the albas for running my Yepp Mini front child seat. I like the albas, but I don't love them. I'd like a bit more racy position, and* I think my bike might be sized a little too small for me with these bars.* I think this might be my experience as well, as evidenced by my musings over

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Chris Chen
I think the albastaches and the hilsen were made for each other. I have discovered that by running them flatter than I think appropriate, it relieves a lot of the wrist pain I get from hyperextending my wrists. Part of this is because I often set my handlebars while standing on the floor over my

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Avery Wilson
Chris - I actually tried albastache on a 8cm dirt drop stem, but they just didn't do it for me. The returns for upright relief, while longer than the original moustache bars, didn't seem nearly long enough. Its like I'd almost rather them not even be there, which in that case, I'd rather

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I think the Alba setup looked very nice, and I think that everybody should have at least one Albatross bike and at least one drop bar bike. Butthat particular drop bar setup looks wrong to me. The brakelevers are rolled too far down the drops and the bars are rotated way too far back up

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread DS
This year alone I've had 2 albastaches, drops, albatross, and bosco bullmoose across three bikes. I think I've finally settled on: Hunqapillar (mtn bike setup): albastache, but really want to try Bullmoose bars, like bad) Gunnar sport: drops, after trying Albastaches, which I really really

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread Jim Bronson
You can get a full set of Jagwire stainless cables with Teflon internal housings on eBay for $13 shipped in your choice of color complete with all ferrules and so forth. It's called an OEM pack. I love my LBS and I spend money with them when I don't have time to work on the bike myself or when I

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-25 Thread rob markwardt
Give me drop bars or give me wrist/ass pain!! Didn't Abe Lincoln say that? Anyway...not a swapper here. The bars on my Bleriot have been there for close to eight years. I had a couple of upright bikes previously and there were fine for cruising around town but when it comes to putting in

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Avery Wilson
Click here for a photo of the same bike with drops https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/14836699130/. Doesn't it just look right? I shouldn't go on looks, but aesthetics gets into my head and messes with me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Avery, What's worse, a serial cockpit swapper messing mostly w/ a single bike or a serial bike/cockpit swapper who has tried boscos, alba's, noodles, mbars across 4 different frames just this year! :) I think it's fun to tinker... easy enough to do, keeps the makers of long shifter cables in

[RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Avery Wilson
Well, I've got the fauxbeam as well. It is, and will stay for the long term an albatross-bar-bike, because its a 3 speed city bike where I like to be upright and looking around... or maybe I could make it my drop bar limited-gear go-fast drop bar bike.. hmm, :) Pic of the fauxbeam here.

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/24/2014 04:01 PM, Avery Wilson wrote: Click here for a photo of the same bike with drops https://www.flickr.com/photos/122008974@N05/14836699130/. Doesn't it just look right? Very much so. To me those Albatross (or whatever they are) bars just plain look awful. I shouldn't go on

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Deacon Patrick
Absolutely. Do you truly believe the only difference between a Rivendell and a Surly is looks? With abandon, Patrick If you cared nothing at all for aesthetics, would you spend the extra money for a Rivendell over a Surly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Avery E Wilson
I've owned both, and if it were possible to ride blindfolded, I would be able to tell them apart at first or second pedal stroke. The ride/comfort/aesthetics combo of a riv is as close to perfection as I've found for the type of riding I do! That's why I own a riv. It also awakens, or at least has

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/24/2014 04:40 PM, Avery E Wilson wrote: I've owned both, and if it were possible to ride blindfolded, I would be able to tell them apart at first or second pedal stroke. The ride/comfort/aesthetics combo of a riv is as close to perfection as I've found for the type of riding I do! That's

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Patrick Moore
I have to agree with Avery's appreciation. All my road Rivs (3 customs, 1 Ram) have just felt and fit right and, except for the first custom which was rather experimental, handled flawlessly with perfect straight line stability and perfect turn in -- the Ram slightly more sedate than the 2

Re: [RBW] Re: Cockpit Swappers Anonymous

2014-08-24 Thread Avery Wilson
Steve: About the Surly vs Riv thing, here's a BIG disclaimer. I've only ridden a Long Haul Trucker, but not an Atlantis. I've ridden a Sam Hillborne and an A. Homer Hilsen both extensively. There's tons of little variables that could account for my differing experiences, the chiefs among