Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-22 Thread Dave
Definitely all makes sense. I think in this case, the crank arm is really just too long for my leg length and the bike. I've never been scared with the pedal strikes because they've been at slow speeds, but it's pretty silly. Going to move over to the Sugino XD2 triple in 170mm and will rep

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
[image: More message actions] Just a few comments on pedal strike. As others have mentioned, it is scarey as all get out when it happens. I would encourage you though that it's not inherently catastrophic. The momentum you and the bike possess when moving forward is pretty significant, and

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Just a few comments on pedal strike. As others have mentioned, it is scarey as all get out when it happens. I would encourage you though that it's not inherently catastrophic. The momentum you and the bike possess when moving forward is pretty significant, and it's mostly the _reaction_ to

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-22 Thread hsmitham
Just my two cents. First I once pedaled a turn aggressively and it was the second scariest moment I've ever had on a bicycle, I usually as others have already stated have my lean side pedal up. I also agree with contacting Mark at Rivendell regarding BB sizing, though I think you can save some

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-22 Thread John Le Marquand
I have a 61cm Bleriot with Hetre tyres and fenders and the tyres definitely improved the ride. John On 21/01/2013 1:40 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 13:20 -0800, Dave wrote: bleriot can fit hetres I believe, Joan's definitely does. Bleriot is essentially the same as Saluk

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Dave
Thanks for all the replies! I talked with Brian over at RBW who suggested 170mm crank arms on the bleriot for a rider my height. Anyone have an extra used or new sugino xd2 170mm? Dave On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:36:28 PM UTC-8, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > Those differences are mostly i

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Dave
Thanks for all the replies folks! On Monday, January 21, 2013 2:36:28 PM UTC-8, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > Those differences are mostly inconsequential. Take for example the 108. > Compared to the 110, it's narrower by 1mm per side. OK, so sometimes that > can mean the difference between the

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Those differences are mostly inconsequential. Take for example the 108. Compared to the 110, it's narrower by 1mm per side. OK, so sometimes that can mean the difference between the crank arms clearing the chainstay, but most of the time it's really not that important to get the BB length spot

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Joe Bernard
The best bet for mounting XD2s on a Bleriot is to contact Rivendell for BB length. Mark's email is m...@rivbike.com. He'll know what a Bleriot runs. On the topic of pedal strike, I can't remember the last time I did that. I either coast through with inside pedal up, or carve the turn with a ver

Re: [RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-01-21 at 13:20 -0800, Dave wrote: > bleriot can fit hetres I believe, Joan's definitely does. Bleriot is essentially the same as Saluki, and mine fit Hetres. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this gr

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Garth
With a Tange or Shimano Cartridge, the 107 and 110 have the same drive side length, so the 110 simply gives you 3mm more on the left. However, with Shimano's they have a lip built into the *left* side cup also so if you use a driveside spacer it won't sung up all the way with the cartridge. F

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Dave
bleriot can fit hetres I believe, and hope to get a pair once these col de la vie's need replacing. May give Grip Kings a go, although I really doubt they'll be narrower than the platform pedals or the MKS streams. On Monday, January 21, 2013 1:12:51 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote: > > I've got a 107 o

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Leslie
I've got a 107 on my Bomba w/ the XD2 crankset, works fine; but the 110 would be great, too. (My Ram has a Shimano Octalink BB/crankset, so it's not directly comparable...) A 170 might be good to try; but I'm still thinking 'simpler' fixes first... can a Bleriot fit Hetres? That'

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Dave
Thanks Jay. Typo on my part. 110mm. Then with Phil Wood, seems like 110 isn't an option.108, 111, 113. Not that I'm ready to drop that kind of cash, but just trying to understand my options. On Monday, January 21, 2013 12:51:08 PM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > > Says 110mm, like this

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Says 110mm, like this one, http://www.jensonusa.com/Bottom-Brackets/Shimano-UN53-Square-Taper-BB $10 On Jan 21, 10:42 pm, Dave wrote: > Looks like I've got some reading/learning to do in terms of bottom > brackets.  "All riv's take a 100mm with the Sugino XD-2 crank" is what > rivbike says on the

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Michael
> > Also FYI: > Lon Haldeman, who is very tall and long limbed, rode 170 cranks on his > race bike according to interview in RR. > Maybe go to 170 cranks. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the w

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Michael
> > FYI: > > I ride a 55 Bleriot with Ultegra 172.5 cranks and MKS touring pedals with toe clips. The clips drag the ground when walking the bike, but there is nary a pedal strike when cornering (non-racer style cornering). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Dave
Looks like I've got some reading/learning to do in terms of bottom brackets. "All riv's take a 100mm with the Sugino XD-2 crank" is what rivbike says on their $40 cartridge bb page. Then looking at Phil Wood bb's on the net there are too many options On Monday, January 21, 2013 12:26:07

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Garth
165's will help or be bold and go with Sugino 152's !I'm tall with big feet and switched to these after imaging what it would feel like to have the leverage of a long crank but the speed of a short one . So I tried a mid foot pedal position with my Birks ... and it was Love at fi

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Garth
It'll surely help going to 165's.Or be bold and go with 152 Sugino's I'm tall with big feet and switched to those with a mid foot pedal position with Birkenstocks . I just giggle every time I ride because it's so much fun and so wonderful feeling. You get the leverage of a longer cr

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
A square taper BB is $20. Not a big deal. On Jan 21, 10:21 pm, William wrote: > The geometry is not all that hard to figure out.  A few mm of length change > will change your clearance by a few mm.  A few degrees of extra lean before > you scrape.  Pedal scrapes during a deep lean can be incredib

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread William
The geometry is not all that hard to figure out. A few mm of length change will change your clearance by a few mm. A few degrees of extra lean before you scrape. Pedal scrapes during a deep lean can be incredibly dangerous. In my opinion, it is much more important to have the right length f

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Dave
Went out to look and you're correct on the Hollowtech BB. bummer. I'm running the col de la vie 37mm tires, so not much room there. I guess will keep my eyes open for a BB and cranks at good prices. Anyone on list looking to clean out their garage, let me know. On Monday, January 21, 2013 1

[RBW] Re: Crankset length

2013-01-21 Thread Leslie
If it's a recent 105, it's a Hollowtech BB, which is integrated into the crank; to switch to the Sugino, you'd need a JIS square-taper BB in its place What tire size are you running? If you're on 32's, might want to try 38's, that might help a bit, too... it's subtle, but, sometimes th