Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Kim Hetzel
...I would rather wait until April to buy a new Clem in RBW blue, rather than buy a used RBW framset at this point in time. On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:12:01 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: > The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I > thank-you very much for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Kim Hetzel
The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I thank-you very much for the information. I appreciate it. In the meantime, I can close my eyes and imagine my lime olive frameset is a RBW blue color. Obviously not when I am cycling on my Clem. I contacted the seller of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Brian Turner
Haha, can’t say I haven’t been guilty of that same ploy!On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:57 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote:That makes sense Joe! On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:$3900 for a Clem?? That's a "partner told me to sell my bike" price. "Yes dear, I put it on

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
That makes sense Joe!  On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > $3900 for a Clem?? That's a "partner told me to sell my bike" price. "Yes > dear, I put it on Craigslist. No takers!"  > > On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
$3900 for a Clem?? That's a "partner told me to sell my bike" price. "Yes dear, I put it on Craigslist. No takers!"  On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep. > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
Makes me think someone should buy my Susie for such a sweet deal! Haha. On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:21:38 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep. > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote: > > Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Brian Turner
Yeah, that Clem seems about $1K too steep.On Feb 1, 2023, at 2:11 PM, Ryan Frahm wrote:Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you!That one for

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you! That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie for that and it’s a

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-02-01 Thread Kim Hetzel
I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote: > Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. > > Kim Hetzel >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote: > Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though > it's a fully built bike. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread JAS
Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though it's a fully built bike. https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html --Joyce On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > Both. I wanted to use a

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Kim Hetzel
I am hoping that the Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset is not discontinued and rides off into the sunset. I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" in RBW Blue and in turn sell my lime olive frameset. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 5:22:41 PM UTC-8

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Richard Rose
So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M wrote:I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
They definitely went fast! I had a green in my cart and got distracted, gone. Went for the gold and was lucky. I think it was 4 minutes or so and they were gone! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:45:51 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Paul M
I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top tube on

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ryan Frahm
I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick! On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread JW
All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it sounds like they'll be discontinued all together. On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com wrote: > Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Ronald Halili
Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the Gus

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-30 Thread Steve
Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed models? Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but more and more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are looking attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail carbon

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-25 Thread Eric Marth
I've never ridden one of these frames but olde Tall Paul brought one along for our overnighter back in the fall. The Blue Lug galleries are always a great place to draw inspiration, such clean and well-appointed bikes and their Rivendell builds are some of the best around! On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-11 Thread Joe Bernard
Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! Joe "I want one" Bernard On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first good look > at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-11 Thread Ryan Frahm
Looks great Richard! Can’t wait to hear how you like it when it’s all done! On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:29:46 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote: > Looking real good there Richard. I am sure that you will be hooting and > hollering down the road and through the woods, when she is all put

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-11 Thread Kim Hetzel
Looking real good there Richard. I am sure that you will be hooting and hollering down the road and through the woods, when she is all put together. Thank-you for sharing. Kim Hetzel Yelm, WA. On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > You all are right. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Ryan Frahm
I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is about an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit more clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think the bike is high enough to pedal

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Brian Turner
The following is a quote from Will at Rivendell, from some email correspondence early last year regarding the Gus/Susie availability. He didn't mention anything about production costs, but that makes sense to me. "We have one more small run of them coming sometime late this year... and after

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Richard Rose
Fair point(s). As you can imagine, the full suspension bike has a pretty high bb, though not as high as current comparable bikes. I rarely experienced pedal strokes even pedaling through stuff that at my age I probably should not be doing!:)I just looked at available solutions & thought it might

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Garth
"The last of the fillet brazed frames". I take that for what it says, it doesn't say or even infer there will be no more such frames at all. Ride on The Sun never sets In regards to short cranks, I'm 6'-2" and change and I ride 150mm cranks and have for about a decade. I originally

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Brian Turner
I understand your intent to avoid crank or pedal contact, but personally I wouldn’t base my crank length on the potential for pedal strikes on rocks and roots. In this case, I would fall into the camp of being conscious of the terrain, refining your technique, and being mindful of your own

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-10 Thread Richard Rose
Legit question. I am moving from a full suspension trail bike to the Gus. I have ridden my Clem (27.5 x 2.25) with 173mm cranks and have been reminded of how alarming pedal strokes can be! But, I really enjoy the trail experience on the Clem otherwise. I realize the Gus has a slightly higher BB

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread Joe Bernard
The original plan was there would be two price points for both models, fillet and TIG. Then the TIGs didn't happen and the fillets got pricier and I think they lost interest in the whole thing. My guess is Grant/Riv got tired of fighting the "those fat tires are hard to use with v-brakes"

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread iamkeith
On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:59:23 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of > Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm > cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread Richard Rose
Joe - pm’ed you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 9, 2023, at 9:22 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:You found a great bike! I'm the resident short cranks whisperer around here, here's the Sugino XD600 152mm on my custom. I had same on a Susie for a short time but it never saw dirt so I can't vouch for clearance,

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-09 Thread Richard Rose
I am feeling so very lucky to have found a Gus. On the subject of Gus/Susie bikes; who among us are using a crankset with shorter than 165mm cranks in an effort to improve pedal clearance on rough trails? I’ve been researching available cranks and finding interesting possible benefits other than

[RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-08 Thread Joe Bernard
Apparently the fillets cost more to do, the Gus/Susie are already $250 more than the lugged frames and were going to go higher if they did another run. These are great frames, if money/opportunity ever lines up for me I'm going to grab a Gus. If you want one now and have the cash, buy it! Joe

[RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-08 Thread Luke Hendrickson
Yeah, I guess the frame builders prefer making lugged framesets over fillet brazing. Too bad, but looking forward to the bike Riv makes that’s sorta between the Susie & Gus. On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 7:32:22 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote: > If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he