While everyone piles on pb*bikes for his business model, let me point out:
1. We won't keep people from being rich, any more than they will help keep
me from being, ahem, under budget.
2. Capitalism may suck, but it is too firmly entrenched now to destroy it
without completely destroying the
I’ll open myself to mocking by admitting that I have, in fact, sold a plastic
bicycle water bottle on eBay for $100. However, this was a very rare, mint
condition bottle from the 1980s, still in the original packaging and printed
with the Colnago name and logo. The combination of those factors
we're still talking about a current production part, which can be bought
new for $170, that he has a used one listed as Rare Vintage for $450 BIN.
It's not about the price, it's about the lie.
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:16:53 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
I’ll open myself to mocking
I was working in Colorado this last summer and stopped into Pro's Closet.
It is a clean little set up with tons of parts gleaned from ex-pros and the
Boulder industry people. It's rumored they are working on a bike museum as
well. It is located in a nondescript light industrial warehouse on the
Ok...
Everybody take a breath.
Thanks.
I'm kind of conflicted on this thread. I've been working on a project
which finished up this morning, so I'm probably just worn out and grumpy
enough to ask just why this is a RBW related topic.
On the other hand, the actual auctioneer has contacted
I trust Jim’s judgment. And, generally, the restraint of the group.
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I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what I'd like to say about
whether or not to let Mr. PB*bikes make a statement on this thread, so
simply I think not. Ebay would be the forum for that.
It's his business model that's his right more power to him. Folk who really
need that item(s) and
I would think his prices and business practices speak for themselves, not
really interested in reading some diatribe from someone who wants people's
hard earned money.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have a lot of time at the moment to say what
He is going to come here and beg the service that he provides as a way to
justify the predatory prices he sets. I don't see any good coming of the
replies that will follow, though I promise not to join in.
I know specifically of Moser pantographed Modolo levers from Hungary, $45/,
that he
As the person starting this, I'm 100% okay with it being deleted by a
benevolent dictator. :-)
While it was vaguely on-topic (Rivendell/Nitto parts), it wasn't the most
uplifting of posts...
On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:20:38 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
He is going to come here and beg the
David, we will expect higher Riv content from you hence forth ; -
And no more capitalism blocking ya here!
-Hugh
Los Angeles, CA
On Nov 12, 2014 3:39 PM, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:
As the person starting this, I'm 100% okay with it being deleted by a
benevolent
Any seller on eBay can sell anything for any price they can get. EBay is about
the sellers; the higher the prices that items are sold for, the more profit
eBay makes. They really have no reason to care if buyers overpay. Shop
victoriously!
The rule on eBay, as with virtually all other
and clearly a late model component - he's just fishing. I did buy a single
C-Record shift lever from him once and, believe it or not, his price was
fair, though it was on sale.
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:31:10 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto
isn't this liberal use of the word vintage? Is the lugged stem design old,
i thought it was relatively recent?
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:31:10 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Act fast, and you can own a $450 Nitto stem to match your $100 Rivendell
water bottle!
to show you how much ebay endorses fraud by their sellers, there is no
means to report this item. If you go down every option for reporting an
item, there is no place to say that the seller is misrepresenting what the
item actually is
No question, this is a current production part made to
Agreed. I've gone so far as to complain to eBay about this. Also, there's
no way to block a seller's listings from appearing in search results.
pb*bikes would be the very first seller I would block, for their insulting
prices. When I do a search, I can't stand seeing the same sellers from
Really? Is there a sucker born every minute. In an age where we can do a
search and find the reasonable price for an item. I realize that his tactic
must work otherwise he wouldn't list such absurd prices but It's hard to
conceive anyone, especially someone who's purchased a purchased a Riv to
Go through his ebay storefront, s/he has a LOT of vintage parts for sale,
and what seem to be highly inflated prices. But when you look at the
feedback, 9,999 happy customers that seem content to pay those prices. So I
guess s/he has figured out a pretty lucrative business model.
On Tue, Nov 11,
It really is truly amazing what he gets for his stuff when you look at his
sold items. $75 for NOS Simplex pulleys??!! They're not even the fancy
bearing version.
the formula is simple - he buys parts in auction on ebay and re-sells them
in a BIN store at double his purchase price (or more). In many cases, he
is simply fishing for idiots, sometimes people who don't know better, other
times, impatient people who won't wait for a better deal.
On
People, ebay is an online auction house. The rules of the Auction house are
they present the product, you decide how much you want to pay. Now blatant
mis-representation is illegal and immoral but listing something for double
what its worth isnt either of those things. Why is a Rothko worth $40
Peter, you are correct, and I'm not aware that anyone is accusing him of
violating any rules or principles of honesty. But by setting prices to
obscenely high sums, and actually waiting for someone desperate enough to
pay them, he's effectively driving the entire market up.
I mentioned that
Oh, i hear you. When see outrageous prices i know it is PB bikes or another
seller or two that deals in overpriced vintage items. I would think from
a business model Ebay would never let you filter out sellers, that would
hurt their commission on said sales and the bottom line, which is all that
So I kinda know pb*bikes, we talked once, and I've seen his postings on
various forums. I'm familiar with his operation and the ill-will he seems
to generate. He hasn't appointed me as his defender, and I'm not
volunteering for that roll, but I will present another side of the coin.
If you
It's a heck of a business model, and probably something they love doing.
Separating fools from their money that is. But I don't see how a *buyer*
would not take 30 seconds and find a new Nitto stem for half of what pb is
selling used for. If s/he is able to take their money, all hail pb!
I much
I brought my RB-1 from Pro's Closet for $400, a great purchase.
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