[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-05-04 Thread S. Greco
I recently came across this video which is a good visual for how to fix for this issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuH80YRPFuM On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote: > > My hub play issue is solved. After speaking

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-31 Thread John Rinker
My hub play issue is solved. After speaking with a wheelbuilder with plenty of experience with these hubs, I learned my issue was caused by not pressing firmly enough on the collar when adjusting the hub and tightening the set screws. Fearful of over loading the bearings, I was reluctant to

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Well, I gotta say, this topic (the humble bearing) can be one heckuva rabbit hole! John, this is likely why your Chris King's are probably still going strong - go here , scroll down to "Our Bearings" and watch CK's video. CK manufacture their own sealed

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread John Rinker
I agree- a very interesting discussion. Regarding my hub, it spins beautifully and so I'll live with the quirky radial bearing play. Out of curiosity, the bearings are ABEC 6902. Does this mean if I wanted one day to replace them with angular bearings I would go with 7902s? Seems logical, but

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread Nick Payne
On Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 6:36:02 am UTC+11 Joe Bernard wrote: > I remember in the very early years of Riv that Grant mentioned Bullseye > hubs do this and to basically ignore it. Until I've done a > *lot *more riding..ignore it I shall. > I have some Bullseye hubs that are now almost

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread brendonoid
I have recently purchased an MI5 hub that I haven't laced yet and now im feeling like I shouldn't have spent the money? My 10 year old Phil Wood tourings don't have any play at all. The axle set up on the Phils 'pre loads' the bearings though you'd think that would loosen after thousands of

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Huh, I've learned a new thing. The MI5 on my custom is a year old and not ridden hard, I grabbed the tire and wiggled and there's at least a mm or two of play in mine, too. I remember in the very early years of Riv that Grant mentioned Bullseye hubs do this and to basically ignore it. Until

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread Jeffrey Arita
FWIW: I bought a *very *well-used DTSwiss wheelset (240S hubs) a bit ago. The guy I bought the wheelset from is a bikepacker and he really rode those wheels (good for him). I re-laced the rear hub to my rim of choice and built it up into a complete wheel.after I installed it there was

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread Garth
Great John ! FWIW, I have 2 sets of Specialized cartridge bearing hubs(radial type bearings) from the early 80's that have that same kind of lateral play. I've been riding them all this time and I just consider it a harmless quirk. They're interesting in that they use a threaded axle and a

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread John Rinker
Thank you, Garth! What an education this is, and I really appreciate the time and effort you've put into helping me understand this. As for how much play, if I had to guess I'd say that when I grab my wheel at the tire a move it laterally to test for play there's maybe a 1-2mm shift. Maybe? I

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-26 Thread Garth
John, I know it's impossible to put into words how much play you are experiencing, but if it helps at all many cartridge bearing hub with radial type bearings exhibit a small amount of lateral play. It's not enough to notice when riding or braking, only when you're off the bike and wiggle the

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-25 Thread John Rinker
Garth and Jeffrey, Thank you very much for your kind replies. Yes, this was my first course of action when the problem first arose, and while WI contacts at the time were attentive and wished to help, I recall we didn't really come to a solution. I do have a conversation in the wings with

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-25 Thread S. Greco
I have this same issue with one of my M15 hubs. Please post if you get a solid answer. My LBS recommended new bearings which I bought and installed, but it did not fix the issue. On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 9:33:29 PM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote: > John, > > As Garth advises, I too would

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-24 Thread Jeffrey Arita
John, As Garth advises, I too would reach out to White Industries. I had a question regarding a rear hub awhile ago and they were very helpful. Speaking on the phone in a two-way is, IMHO, always better. They might need to eventually inspect the hub, so that might happen. Either way, WI

[RBW] Re: Hub Play

2022-01-24 Thread Garth
I'd contact WI if it were me as they know their goods best. The tele is most effective as it allows for instantaneous Q On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 6:07:46 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote: > Please pardon if this is not the forum for this and kindly redirect me if > possible. > > The rear wheel