I've had shimmy on my Atlantis since day 1, which I described here a
year or so ago. Nothing helped it, thicker headset grease,
fenders(less), front load/no front load, not even different bars, no
death grip..etc. And it wasn't me. My BIL experienced the same thing
enough to comment that he tho
I too have a 1996 26" wheel Allrounder. http://tinyurl.com/4qfwem
http://tinyurl.com/45cbmr
It was bought small to work well offroad, but over the years has
generally been a commuter and mixed road steed. It has Reynolds753
tubing and is quite flexy, or these days one might say it planes. For
yea
700> Subject: [RBW] Re: Low trail
Atlantis fork> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> > On Sep 17, 7:06 am, Larry Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > I have
thought about getting a low trail fork but would the bike still be a
Ra
On Sep 17, 8:12 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> When I built up and tested one of the Kogswell prototypes a couple of
> years ago and had a chance to play around with front-loading, the
> truth was that I did not find it all that appealing. Neither did any
> of my smaller-bodied (and mostly femal
On Sep 17, 7:06 am, Larry Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have thought about getting a low trail fork but would the bike still be a
> Rambouillet? Would I be able to get the same gorgeous Orange color? The
> bottom line is a Rambouillet with a custome low trail fork is still cheaper
>
On Sep 16, 8:32 pm, "David Faller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to believe that shimmy has a strong component of Human Body in it. My
> good friend and 35 year cyclist, twice trans-America rider, and former wrench
> has had many bikes over the years and has had shimmy on every one of the
I think Jim's post makes sense. For some of us, things work, for
others, not so much. Let's not forget that the largest variable is
the rider. Some are fat, others skinny - some long and lanky, others
stout. Some folks are giants, others just plain tiny. Some move
around a lot on the bike, ot
er, I stop, dismount, add or substract and
resume my ride. An added benefit to stopping besides safety, is to get some
circulation in my toes.
--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Larry Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Larry Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RBW] Re: Low trail Atlantis for
> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:03:45 -0700> Subject: [RBW] Re: Low trail Atlantis
> fork> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > .>I
> think what's often missed is that here's a wide gulf> between "not optimal"
> and
This is the most likely scenario.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
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> Of course it's possible that I'm just uncommonly talented at riding
> these unwieldy machines.
>
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Color me skeptical.
This notion that an Atlantis can't handle a front load is incorrect,
based on my experience. My Atlantis handles better (to me) with a
heavy front load than it does with a heavy rear load. It's probably
not optimized for heavy front loads, but then a low trail bike isn't
gener
David R wrote (in his article:)
>But to Grant Petersen, I must ask, isn’t it time you go after the root cause,
>and offer your customers who prefer a front load, a Rivendell-built fork with
>a lower fork trail measure?<
Steve wrote:
> Grant builds Rivs the way he likes bikes and he likes rear
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Larry Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can someone please describe shimmy to me?
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/shimmy.html
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ious cycling. Ultimately, shimmy
caused by poor frame design is probably the most intuitive rationale, but
rarely the true and total cause.
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ious cycling. Ultimately, shimmy
caused by poor frame design is probably the most intuitive rationale, but
rarely the true and total cause.
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Doug Van Cleve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If you think the stem is part of the issue why not try a Salsa quill? With
> the high angle model, you can get the bars about as high as a Technomic
> Deluxe and those are pretty stiff stems. I would say one of them
On Sep 17, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Frederick, Steve wrote:
> on 9/16/08 5:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Interesting article by someone who replaced the fork on their
>> Atlantis
>> to eliminate the "shimmies".
>>
>> http://readytoride.biz/?p=333
>
> Shimmy can be caused by
on 9/16/08 5:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Interesting article by someone who replaced the fork on their Atlantis
> to eliminate the "shimmies".
>
> http://readytoride.biz/?p=333
Shimmy can be caused by a lot of stuff--it may be that the headset
reinstall/adjustment wh
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Gino Zahnd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I know David personally, and he's one of the nicer fellas you'll ever
> meet. Let me repeat, David = Awesome dude.
>
>
>
>
Ahhh, Gino
Oh, uhhm, what? Ahhh, I see...
Well, nevermind then.
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Redlands, CA
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Low trail Atlantis fork
on 9/16/08 5:04 PM, EricP at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In the interest of fairness - I recently posted on a different list
> about shimmy. And mentiond there that my Atlant
on 9/16/08 5:04 PM, EricP at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In the interest of fairness - I recently posted on a different list
> about shimmy. And mentiond there that my Atlantis does the shimmy the
> most. Of course, there is a lot of seatpost showing on that bike.
> Along with a lot of stem. An
Well, one could make the argument that an Atlantis with a carbon fork
is indeed a flawed bike. An Atlantis with a custom low-trail fork?
Everybody needs a hobby. Many very popular hobbies involve the solving
of imaginary problems. I can't wait for the Next Big Thing in this
little universe. Someon
I agree with what folks said here. The Atlantis is meant for heavy
rear loading. A lot of these trail conversations have to do with
riding with no hands. I usually have at least one hand on the bike,
so I've never had this problem. Maybe I just haven't felt it yet.
On Sep 16, 5:04 pm, EricP <
In the interest of fairness - I recently posted on a different list
about shimmy. And mentiond there that my Atlantis does the shimmy the
most. Of course, there is a lot of seatpost showing on that bike.
Along with a lot of stem. And pretty fat tires, Schwalbe Big Apple
2.15. Oh, and I have th
on 9/16/08 5:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Interesting article by someone who replaced the fork on their Atlantis
> to eliminate the "shimmies".
>
> http://readytoride.biz/?p=333
These things always catch my interest. One of my riding partners (JimG,
master of the usefu
On Sep 16, 9:20 am, "Gino Zahnd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know David personally, and he's one of the nicer fellas you'll ever
> meet. Let me repeat, David = Awesome dude.
Agreed. I rode with Dave and his friend Eric earlier this year for
some 40 miles during an Or Randonneurs 200k. Dave i
On Sep 16, 11:55 am, "Doug Van Cleve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jay,
>
> If you think the stem is part of the issue why not try a Salsa quill? With
> the high angle model, you can get the bars about as high as a Technomic
> Deluxe and those are pretty stiff stems. I would say one of them wit
I know David personally, and he's one of the nicer fellas you'll ever
meet. Let me repeat, David = Awesome dude.
Now on to the part where I question his ideas around trail:
With regards to his ideas around trail and what he's blogged about
lately, I feel that there's a fundamental flaw in everyth
Jay,
If you think the stem is part of the issue why not try a Salsa quill? With
the high angle model, you can get the bars about as high as a Technomic
Deluxe and those are pretty stiff stems. I would say one of them with a
heat treated Nitto bar is about as stiff as a quill setup can get.
Doug
On Sep 16, 11:09 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would add that the large front load makes the front end feel flexy,
> especially when braking. I believe this flexiness is mostly in the
> quill stem and 1" steerer. My next bike (a custom) will have a stouter
> 1-1/
"Interesting" indeed. Funny too, in a way.
David writes:
"The waning of my love affair coincided with a decision to carry a pay-
load on the front of the bike so I could pull-off layers or put on a
rain jacket while riding. It was then I discovered this otherwise
awesome touring machine was flaw
Jeez, my Atlantis sports a front Surly Nice Rack that I've loaded with
a big basket and two grocery panniers (kid seat on back necessitates
that cargo goes in the front). I've probably had 50 pounds of stuff in
there during grocery runs. Granted, I wasn't careening down mountain
descents, but the
I saw that, it's interesting. I've had the shimmies once on my
Rambouillet but I think that was more due to high speed, a cross wind
and my own nervousness. When riding with a full Carradice Barley Bag
it can be hard to ride no handed. I'm curious what others will have to
say.
I've got an AHH com
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