Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-20 Thread grrlyrida
I think you're right about the excessive flex with double tube mixtes. I have an old Bridgestone double tube mixte and there is a lot of flex going down a steep hill near my house. However with my custom single tube Rivendell mixte I don't experience that problem at all. I'm going to do some

[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-18 Thread stormlight
Andrew, If your still looking for the answer its because the late run 60cm Betties has a higher head tube. Kevin and Vince had explained to me that for the taller riders were maxing out the stem length and it looked sometimes off. So the after a certain run all off the 60cm bettys were made to

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread cyclotourist
Step through the frame to mount, rather than swinging a leg up around the back. Much more civilized. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Serious question: What's the point of a mixte

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Perhaps it was actually three, the third a Le Tour with single down tube but extra stays. The two others were Nishikis. On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To put it another way: why

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Serious question: What's the point of a mixte if you don't wear skirts? To put it another way: why are they so popular? Patrick Moore, who has owned at least two with the extra stays and dual down tubes. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Pam Ellen Hudson pammieel...@gmail.comwrote: I will say,

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I guess it would be useful if you are sufficiently flexible. I could never lift my knee high enough to get it comfortably over the diagonal tubes without danger of catching my toes and falling over. BTW, skirt include kilts. On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, cyclotourist

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Live on the floor for 21 days and you'll be lifting your foot however high you'd like. I often just go over the top bar with my foot rather than swing round back (especially loaded for touring). Who knows? It might even help you get back the foot you left in your mouth believing skirt includes

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Skirt in the general and not the particular sense, as in the skirts of a long coat. Patrick mouth currently foot free, cheek not tongue free Moore On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Live on the floor for 21 days and you'll be lifting your foot however

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Cecily Walker
I wore skirts a lot more when I could still wear hgeels, so I got a mixte because I thought they'd be easier to mount than a diamond frame. But the last two mixtes I've owned (a cheap Norco and the Betty Foy) have proved me wrong. I could've just gotten a Sam Hillborne, but then I wouldn't have

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Aha, the hearts! I would confidently choose a frame on that basis! I think mixtes are cool; I may well buy one for my daughter (if she also thinks they are cool.) On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: I wore skirts a lot more when I could still wear

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread Peter Morgano
I love hearts if anyone wants to buy me a mixte I would ride the hell out of it. On Jan 10, 2014 8:53 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, the hearts! I would confidently choose a frame on that basis! I think mixtes are cool; I may well buy one for my daughter (if she also

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-10 Thread cyclotourist
Red hearts for the win! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I love hearts if anyone wants to buy me a mixte I would ride the hell out of it. On Jan 10, 2014 8:53 PM, Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread Matthew J
I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube style of step through bike than the single diagatube style. :) SOMA Buena Vista is a nice double lateral tube design. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg The double tubes look nice and from the

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread Pam Ellen Hudson
I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the lovelybike frame that was stolen but I got back!). The bike is unusually flexible at high speeds going downhill. There is quite a bit of flex in the frame generally. I will test it out with lowered panniers in the next

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread Ron Mc
The bend is because of the lug, The rear yoke is made from two other tubes. The kink gives better step through, but I also think it looks great. On Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:20:31 AM UTC-6, Pammie wrote: I will say, as the owner of a double tube mixte custom from Royal H (the

[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
There is now a 60cm Cheviut posted on the blug http://24.media.tumblr.com/ee79d4a261cbec8b86d1ed419d857264/tumblr_mz4041WEjH1qe3ngpo2_1280.jpg That's about the highest stepover step-through I've ever seen. Clearly it's got the straight line look, and the diagatube is effectively raised up

[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Aye, Bill, but your kilt won't blow up in yer face, so practicality remains. With abandon, Patrick (who abandoned wearing a kilt daily after discovering knickers after getting a Hunqapillar and needing something to ride in). On Thursday, January 9, 2014 5:33:21 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread cyclotourist
Is that a 650B build? Or 700C w/ a really long HT? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: There is now a 60cm Cheviut posted on the blug

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread Bill Lindsay
The 60cm is a 700c bike. On a related note, the 50cm demo doesn't look like it has long chainstays. The 50 looks like a Betty Foy with an orange paint job (not that there's anything wrong with that). On Thursday, January 9, 2014 5:16:52 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a 650B

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-09 Thread cyclotourist
So the 60cm may fit more more like a 64cm+ bike with that HT. Wonder what the horizontal measurement is. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The 60cm is a 700c bike. On a related note,

[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-08 Thread Jan Heine
Interestingly, mixte seems to have a clear definition more in the U.S. than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term mixte used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of vélo dame or similar terms. Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented by A.

Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-08 Thread Tim Gavin
I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term mixte: (but thanks for the background info, Jan and co.) Though I used it with what seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US). I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the double lateral tube style of step through bike

[RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

2014-01-08 Thread Cecily Walker
I'm confounded. I've looked at my 55cm Betty Foy, and I don't notice a kink. I definitely can see one on the Cheviot that's on the Blug, and I can clearly see it on Vince's staff bike in the Staff Bikes section of rivbike.com. On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:27:07 AM UTC-8, BSWP wrote: