[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael
> > The SKS site says the P45 is for a 28" wheel. This may be why is doesn't > conform to all wheel diameters on the front fender, fore of the brake mount. > The rear fender is no problem on my 650b, but the front fender doesn't conform to the front wheel (at least on mine). Nothing functional

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread bwphoto
Here are a couple of links from Sheldon Brown that may help, so far they are the clearest articles I cold find. http://sheldonbrown.com/650b.html http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:15:52 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > From the Riv site, about the P45 Longb

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread shawn
Michael, Do you have a photo of the front fender not conforming the way you would like it to? The reason I ask is because I am in the process of installing longboards on my wife's Betty and would like to see some of the possible fit issues. My first test fit had the front of the fender forward o

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael
> > Yes, here is a pic. > You can see how the rear fender is great, but the front isn't. You can also see it happening at the end of the riv video for the longboard installation in the final seconds when it shows the finished installation on their bike. Even with my fender backed way off

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread shawn
Thanks Michael. That is how the front fender looked on my test fit on the Betty and I also have the same problem on my regular SKS fenders on my Atlantis. Maybe I am doing something wrong during the installation. On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:08:26 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: > > Yes, here is a

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael
> > Patrick, > > My front wheel with tire height measurement: Twin Hollow 650b rim, with Fatty Rumpkin at 60psi, when standing upright as close top level as possible and off the bike = 26.5" from floor to top edge of tire, measured along center of wheel, with the tape as close as possible to

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael
> > Patrick, > The Longboard has an aluminum strip. But I think it may just be thin like foil. So maybe a heat gun or blow drier would work. When I mounted my Spanninga light on the rear fender, a regular wood drill bit passed right through the fender as if it was all plastic. Didn;t feel a cha

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Michael
> > Patrick, > The problem I have is the unsupported front end of the front fender (the > part in front of the brake) rises away from the tire, giving it a > cyclocross bike fender look, if you know what I mean. Like a BMX fendered > bik used for dirt jumps. Ha ha. > -- You received this mess

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread William
My Marks Rack helps conceal the front end rising. I posted a few photos of my 650B Hilsen, which now has silver Longboards. I'll save the Honjos for another project http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/8429257730/in/photostream On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:08:26 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote

[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread EGNolan
It's been said, but it really depends on the lines you're comfortable with, here's a couple of photos of longboards on a Handsome XOXO w/ 26x1.75" (used to be my mine, but not with this set up) http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8116510606/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ericgnolan/8311142345/

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Michael. Can you tell me what, roughly, is the actual diameter of your 650B wheels? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michael wrote: > The SKS site says the P45 is for a 28" wheel. This may be why is doesn't >> conform to all wheel diameters on the front fender, fore of the brake mount. >

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks for those links. I am very familiar with 559 and 622 wheel sizes. What I meant to ask is: with a 35 mm 622 wheel measuring roughly 27 1/2" in diameter, and a 559 X 32 mm wheel measuring roughly 25" in diameter -- so that there is fully a 2 1/2" difference -- will the Longboard P45s be in any

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Dan McNamara
Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced as they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But still. Thinking about using a second stay to get the front to conform. Or perhaps something off the rack. Too bad the rack does not have a fender m

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Michael: thanks a lot. The fender line follows the tire quite closely -- I can see the deviations, but they are not great -- and I am up to trying the same fenders with a 559X32 mm (actual; 34 mm labeled) tire. Other lists have suggestions for shaping plastic fenders (gently!) in a mellow oven -- 2

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Dan: is the Betty 559 or 584? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan McNamara wrote: > Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced > as they are mounted with a Sheldon fender nut and under a Mark's rack. But > still. > > Thinking about using a second stay to get the fr

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-29 Thread Dan McNamara
The new 50 is the old 52 so it is 584 On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Dan: is the Betty 559 or 584? > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan McNamara wrote: >> Same look on my SO's Betty (50cm) with the longboards. Not as pronounced as >> they are mounted with a Sheldo

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread shawn
Dan, Did you mount the fender in back of the fork crown? I am assuming you did since you used a Sheldon fender nut. My wife's Betty is a 50cm as well and I thought the fenders would be too long to mount in the back of the fork crown. A photo of your Betty showing the fenders mounted would be gre

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Jay B
On my GF's Betty Foy Build, we used a black plastic (nylon?) spacer from Ace Hardware with a button head cap screw, washer, and nut to stabilize the front of the fender to the Mark's Rack. you can see it here. I'm trying Longboards on my

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Dan McNamara
Yah. That is a super long diving board. The one on Amy's bike is no where near that long. On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jay B wrote: > On my GF's Betty Foy Build, we used a black plastic (nylon?) spacer from Ace > Hardware with a button head cap screw, washer, and nut to stabilize the front

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Brad Mitchell
Has anyone run these fenders w/ Hetres before? I currently have VO Zeppelin fenders over them, but I have an extra set of P45s sitting around.. and thinking of trying them out. I figure the clearance on the sides will be tight.. On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:04:25 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wro

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Dan McNamara
Here is a "thru the basket" shot of the diving board on the SO's Betty. Much shorter than yours. I'll ask about that next time I am at RBW. Dan Marin On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jay B wrote: > On my GF's Betty Foy Build, we used a black plastic (nylon?) spacer from Ace > Hardware with a bu

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
No problems with Hetres on the Ram, it would be very tight on the AHH. I have no real issues with the shape of the fender and the 650b tire. You can see from the pic that the front fender in the front is not quite perfect, but it might be the fender itself and not the wheel size. There is plenty o

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Toshi: is the diameter of your wheels about 26 1/2 "? I'm curious since the wheels I am considering the PB45s for are 25" in diameter and I wonder if that would be squeezing the fenders down a wee bit too much. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > No problems with Hetres on

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Patrick: Circumference of 650b wheel with 42mm GB Hetres tire: 2094mm (from Franklyn) I'll let you divide by pi and convert to inches. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question

2013-01-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
26.25" -- hmmm. The fenders have a nice, tight radius -- perhaps the XOXO picture misleads -- crown and bridges doubtless higher than on my 26" roads. Thanks. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > Patrick: Circumference of 650b wheel with 42mm GB Hetres tire: 2094mm > > (fro