Re: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-31 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/31/11 5:15 AM, Earl Grey at earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I have always liked cantis, and the Tektro 720s are my favorites. I have disc brakes (Avid BB7 wit h8 rotors) on one tandem (didn't have a choice, and thought may as well give them a chance. Every few rides I need to adjust the pads

RE: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-31 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
, 2011 1:00 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720) I look back on the last 15 years of my cycling life, and I gotta say. Cantis suck. Single pivot sidepulls suck. The disc brakes on my weirdo project bike brake very well, but go

Re: [RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-31 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:42:07 AM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: The real rub with V-Brakes (or specifically, linear pull) is that they tend to be on or off. It's a matter of the pressure your hands are used to applying, and the more time you spend running canti brakes, the

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-30 Thread dougP
Is this ever a timely discussion! Just back from a tour in Oregon featuring plenty of hills. My wife's Atlantis is standard Riv build with the low profile Shimano cantis and Shimano aero levers. It does have Kool Stop salmon pads. In the past, she's mentioned the brakes did not seem as good as

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-30 Thread William
Normal drop bar brake levers do not pull enough cable to actuate typical V-brakes. There are special levers that pull more cable. and there are inline pulley solutions that correct the cable rate issues. Small-handed, weak-gripped riders have a significant challenge getting

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
Doug, you pose the perfect question for me to share my experience with cantilevers and why I continue to believe in hi straddle and hi profile cantis. My first experience with cantis, after years of good riding with Campy Grand Sport LR brakes and Chorus SR brakes came around 2000, when I

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Sheldon Brown sez: http://sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html On Aug 28, 12:07 pm, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: My favorite cable hanger is this one, which I got from Jitensha but are no longer carried. http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100029/IMG_1193bgcolor=black They

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-29 Thread Philip Williamson
Aha. My rule-of-remembering has been high profile = high hanger; low profile = low hanger, just like Michael's, until I put this brake on with every mm eked out of the straddle wire and it was still disappointing. I'll try a long longer straddle wire, and possibly a wider hanger first. And those

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-29 Thread William
Sheldon (RIP) did a great job of laying out the geometry factors, but didn't really get to the punchline. The punchline, in my opinion is that the mechanical advantage of high profile cantilevers is almost constant regardless of straddle cable length. Brakes like Tektro CR720s and old

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-29 Thread Earl Grey
Thanks for that explanation, William, that was enlightening, and jives with my experience. The way my non- engineer's brain makes sense of this is this: The main brake cable moves up when you engage the brake. For a high profile canti to engage you also mostly need to pull up on the straddle

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-28 Thread Ginz
I'm using Kool Stop Mountain in the front and the Thinline in the back. I do not like the Thinline with this brake. I found that I had to RAISE the yoke in the front. I guess different levers can have a big impact on mechanical advantage even thought they are all made for cantis? On Aug 28,

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-28 Thread Earl Grey
Agreed, it is a very nice-looking hanger, and most importantly for me, it uses a 10mm box wrench and a 5mm? Allen key to adjust. How many of you carry 2 separate 9 or 10mm box wrenches, which most straddle cable hangers from the last 70 years require? And how often does one or the other of those

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-28 Thread Michael Hechmer
My favorite cable hanger is this one, which I got from Jitensha but are no longer carried. http://gallery.me.com/mhechmer#100029/IMG_1193bgcolor=black They are the best looking I have ever seen and are completely self centering, once installed. Initial set-up, however is a meticulous, time

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-28 Thread Ginz
My experience with the CR720 requires the yoke to be as high... so high that I had to use an extra-wide yoke because the straddle cable wasn't long enough. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-27 Thread Michael Hechmer
I don't own these, but have considered buying a pair of the Tektro brakes for a winter bike. The Riv photo, with the barkes installed doesn't show the additional screw. But more importantly how do you like the brakes? Stopping power? Ease of set up? michael -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-27 Thread rcnute
Super easy to set up and very strong. I have them on all my bikes. Gotta replace the pads though. Ryan On Aug 27, 8:12 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I don't own these, but have considered buying a pair of the Tektro brakes for a winter bike.  The Riv photo, with the barkes

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-27 Thread Mojo
Agree with rcnute, these CR720 is easy to setup and quite powerful especially with salmon pads and the straddle cable as low as possible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-27 Thread rcnute
Another plus is that (for me anyway) they seem to work well with non- aero levers--sometimes it's hard to make those levers work with cantis. I have some nice Campy and Mafac levers I wanted to use. Ryan On Aug 27, 10:49 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Agree with rcnute, these CR720 is easy

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-27 Thread Montclair BobbyB
My take: I think these are indeed the best straddle hangers out there. Here's why. You position the hanger for optimum/even pull from both brake calipers, then you set the screws and secure the straddle wire so the hanger remains perfectly positioned; without it the hanger can float and

[RBW] Re: Question about the World's Best straddle wire hanger (Tektro CR720)

2011-08-27 Thread grant
The argument that the Tektro hanger is the best...is a funny argument at some level, because any decent one from the pas 70 years is 98 percent as good as any other, including this. The Tektro *wins*--my opinion--the final 2 unimportant percent, because if for any reason (can think of two