also late to the game and thought i would offer a few thoughts.
i rode the oregon outback route in late july on a borrowed hunq with wtb
nanoraptor 2.1 tires at 30 psi. we did it at a moderate pace, finishing in
two days. we encountered some dry, sandy sections on the route that i was
thankful
Oh and these are the tires I would be basing the bike on:
1) Schwalbe Super Moto 622-60
2) Schwalbe Marathon Winter 622-50
3) Surly Knard 3"
So gravel-grinding tours and general use, ice and snow, and mountain trails
ready. Probably would have two wheelsets, with one go-fast and either ice
or
Hmmm, I'm guessing there's enough clearance on the regular diamond 29er to
make it into a B+ bike:
http://www.jonesbikes.com/steel-diamond-unicrown-bicycle/
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Mike Shaljian
wrote:
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> ***96cm PBH
>
> And this model is sized at 63.5cm seat tube, very close to my 64cm
***96cm PBH
And this model is sized at 63.5cm seat tube, very close to my 64cm Sam H.
On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 7:06:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Shaljian wrote:
>
> Call it heresy if you wish, but I think the Ultimate gravel and
> bikepacking bike may have actually arrived:
> http://www.jonesbikes.c
Call it heresy if you wish, but I think the Ultimate gravel and bikepacking
bike may have actually arrived:
http://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-plus-xt-bb7-build-complete-bicycle-pre-order/
I talk to Jeff for two hours about my riding, preferences and wishes for an
all-terrain, all-use bike and thi
Thanks for the insight, John. It seems that 45mm-max is the verdict for a
Sam H.
If I wanted the ideal Rivendell for the O.O, it does seem like the
Hunqapillar would be the bike, riding a 55mm touring tire like the Schwalbe
Almotion. I am considering a used 62cm Hunqapillar as a possibility ri
Two ideas:
1) Sheldon fender nuts make adding/removing fenders a breeze.
2) Why not try a 42mm knobby like the Cazadero? Or the 700x40C Clement MSO?
Then you keep the coverage for mud &c.
Bonus: Are you running SKS P50 or P45? I'd say go P50 or P55 if you can.
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Su
Don't know if it is too late to post on this thread or not but this is a
topic I've had very recent experience with. I'm currently riding Schwalbe
Mondial 40's with fenders on my new to me 56 Hillborne (the one with
cantis). I'm sure it would easily take 45's if I take off the fenders. I
ser
I recall fixing clearance on a beater Schwinn Tempo frame at the rear brake
bridge with a hammer. It worked! Fixed gear, of course -- my first one, in
fact. Wanted to fit a 26 mm tire.
(Don't tell Steve ...)
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Mike Schiller
wrote:
> the side clearance seems OK. T
the side clearance seems OK. The 1+ mm at the brake bridge is too tight for
me. Your bike may have more or less room there. There is some variation
frame to frame. I've seen the same model Riv have as much as 5 mm
difference at the rear brake bridge.
~mike
Carlsbad Ca
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That seems like just enough space to me! I bet they measure 48mm wide with
calipers, knowing that Schwalbe labels their tires larger than actual
always. I'm psyched to get some Schwalbe touring fatties soon and will
report! I've got a canti-mounted Sam, so may be different.
On Thursday, Novemb
No worries Jim. I'm actually surprised they fit as well as they do, but I
agree that 45's are probably more realistic. Riv's spec, I believe is 42,
but I think they generally choose to error on the conservative side.
Thanks for posting the pictures. I know this takes some effort and I want
Hm, from the pictures, clearance seems ok to me. Especially as the tread starts
wearing. Also, those with wider rims will be better off as the clearance at the
fender mount will be greater. Unless you ride through mud regularly, I'd say
that is fine.
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:21:16 PM
CORRECTION: Upon closer observation, I'm going to take back what I said below
on November 18. With 700x50 Big Bens on a 62 cm Sam Hillborne, the clearance is
a bit too tight for comfort in my opinion even though the tire does spin.
However, based on the fact that the 700x50's come close to fitt
Aha, thanks for the reminder Matt. As you'll see in the pictures, they fit, but
it is tight in two places. I should apologize because in my message of November
18 I somewhat carelessly said "fit fine" without defining what "fine" means. I
had put the wheels on and said, "hey they fit!" but I st
I must have some freak Hilsen, because even with the Babyshoe Pass 650b x
42 tires on there, on Aerohead/Dyad rims, I have gobs of clearance; Next
summer I might take the fenders off and go Cazadero.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, James Warren
wrote:
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> Matt,
> I'll try to remember to get it
Matt,
I'll try to remember to get it on Flickr this evening.
On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:09 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Can you post some pictures showing the clearances? If so, being a Hillborne
> owner myself, I would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
Jim,
Can you post some pictures showing the clearances? If so, being a
Hillborne owner myself, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Matt
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:17:00 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
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>
> I just put some Big Ben 700 x 50's on my Hillborne, and they fit fine with
> no
Mike, you proposed doing this route together with me. Initial thought was,
"of course I'll take the Saluki with 41mm Surly Knards." Now, after
reading the discussion, the Indy Fabulous Deluxe (Jamis Dragon-like minus
front suspension) seems like the obvious choice shod with 50mm Michelin
Coun
I just put some Big Ben 700 x 50's on my Hillborne, and they fit fine with no
room for a fender. I don't have calipers so I don't know their actual size, but
it is a great riding tire and certainly fits on the Sam. And this is a sidepull
Sam.
-Jim W.
p.s. Man, the Sam is a great bike.
On No
Well, based on my assumption that a Schwalbe Almotion 622-50 will actually
be 48mm on a 23mm rim and that this can fit on my Sam, I think I'll go with
this plan. Also, I re-read about my 60mm Berthoud fenders on Peter White's
page and saw that he's found that 50 mm tires should fit no problem wi
I can compare my Quickbeam with 40mm Clements to my Hunqapillar with 2.1"
rear/2.25" front Smart Sams on a wide variety of surfaces and situations.
Perhaps these experiences will help you make a choice, though I have no
experience with the Oregon Outback roads specifically.
Dry hard pack to sem
Oh! In that case check out the Panaracer Fire XC
FIRE CROSS
Cyclo-crossr
The FireCross is based on the award winning Fire XC Pro tread. Designed and
tweaked for wide clearance cross frames and all 29” applications. Super
aggressive and confidence inspiring. Check your frame clearance to make
sur
I'm on 700C wheels and they currently have studded tires entrenched for the
duration. I also order my Schwalbe rubber from a German retailer, so it
takes some commitment. The Cazaderos do sound great too, especially if I
could keep my ultrawide Berthoud fenders on with them.
On Monday, Novembe
Vee Rubber makes a 650B x 1.95 tire too. Cazadero is still my pick tho.
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Mike S wrote:
> I also ponder if the 622-50 (listed) Schwalbe Almotion will fit a Sam. I
> know their tires are usually ~2mm narrower than the label in that size
> range, and a helpful fello
Wait, I don't understand why you don't just try a pair. Yours is the 650B
sam right?
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Mike S wrote:
> Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are
> doomed. I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the
> 622-47 Mondial
I also ponder if the 622-50 (listed) Schwalbe Almotion will fit a Sam. I
know their tires are usually ~2mm narrower than the label in that size
range, and a helpful fellow at BB&H said that someone at RBW does run 50's
on a Sam.
Then again, as our fallen brother Lance A. is reputed to have sai
Ahh, sad to see that my hopes for the Thunder Burts on Sam Hill are doomed.
I was just looking around at Schwalbe tires and it seems like the 622-47
Mondial might be an ideal choice for my purpose. I think beefed out Ogre is
in my future when I'm no longer enduring my vow of poverty (grad school
I've never seen a Sam that can fit actual 50 mm wide tires. Certainly
45's. BTW... the Thunder Burts measure out at 51 mm on 24mm wide rims.
As far as another bike... there is the used market. I've seen used Fargos
in the price range of that Jamis.
~mike
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Yes, I appreciate all the input and my answer to the question of "how
fast?" would be that speed isn't really my concern. My main goal is to push
the Hillborne to the limits of what it is capable of and see how it fares,
prior to dropping $2000+ on a new bike when 95% of what I'd want to do can
In addition to what Mike says, I'd also point out that most people
can't pack as light as Jan did, because most people are going to want
to stop and sleep at some point, so they'll need to bring a sleeping
bag and probably some kind of shelter.
If you look at the pictures of the riders last year,
If you read Jan's account of the OO in BQ you would find he says a roadish
tire of ~50 mm would be the optimal tire for most of the dirt sections. As
you know, he is the developer and sells the Compass tire line (that he
used) and therefore has a bit of bias towards those tires
(understateme
Mike,
The question that comes to my mind regarding the OO is how do you want to ride
it?
Fast like Jan Heine or taking your time and camping along the way? If you plan
on riding in like under 30 hours than a 42 mm tire like the Grand Bois Hetre's
would be sufficient with next to no load (as A
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