[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Jon, keep in mind that 'stache bars use road diameter tubing, so mtb-ish grips will be a job to install. You might be able to hollow out cork grips enough to work, but the Ergons I use on most of my bikes definitely won't fit, and Riv's Dutch Paddles are even tighter. I agree with the others

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Andrew Patteson
The perforated will be substantially lighter, like drillium for your bar tape. :) I don't have direct experience, but I would think that there's not much of a difference either way, and you should get whichever floats your boat. Best wishes, Andrew in SLC On Friday, June 24, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Tim Butterfield
I noticed both this and the regular Brooks leather bar tape are perforated. Is there a benefit to the perforations or would a solid tape like the Compass Grand Bois leather tape be better? https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/handlebars/grand-bois-leather-handlebar-tape/ I can imagine

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Tim Gavin
Regarding grips OR bar-ends: you can use the cork grips from Riv with bar-end shifters; just make sure you get the ones that are pre-punched and grooved for that purpose: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/gt5be.htm. On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Jon Craig wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Surlyprof
That looks great. So much less expensive than the leather! I wonder if microfiber patinas or fades over time. Please keep us posted on how well they hold up. John On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 8:18:32 AM UTC-7, Andrew Patteson wrote: > > One newer (and vegan) option is this stuff: >

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Andrew Patteson
One newer (and vegan) option is this stuff: http://www.jensonusa.com/Brooks-Microfiber-Bar-Tape I don't have a lot of miles on it, but it feels like it will last forever. Cheers, Andrew in SLC

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Thanks for the detailed answer! (And yes, we're both LOVING our Sams! Truly amazing bikes.) The Albastache looks good and I'm really thinking about it. It would be just the bar for me, since I have a Samcomplete, which has barend shifters that will go in the barend position on that bar. But

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Surlyprof
Jon, First of all, congratulations on your double Sam purchase. If you and your wife have not completely fallen in love with the bikes already... you will! I bought my orange canti-Sam new-to-me on craigslist. It came with Albatross bars wrapped with leather Brooks tape (cream-colored... or

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
ps - the mustard tan would look great on a green bike On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 9:15:33 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > way cool > > On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 9:10:47 AM UTC-5, Jon Craig wrote: >> >> Huh - I may have to pass. I don't think it would look good with either >> Sam-color (unless I'm

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
way cool On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 9:10:47 AM UTC-5, Jon Craig wrote: > > Huh - I may have to pass. I don't think it would look good with either > Sam-color (unless I'm mis-picturing the color!). (Mine's blue, my wife's is > the Orange.) > > >>> -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Huh - I may have to pass. I don't think it would look good with either Sam-color (unless I'm mis-picturing the color!). (Mine's blue, my wife's is the Orange.) Offer's appreciated though! :) On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 9:59:39 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > > If you're interested in light Mustard

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
If you're interested in light Mustard Brown, I have a set sitting around for such-a-deal. I bought it for my daughter's bike and the color wouldn't work at all. I looked at it seriously for my Raleigh this time, but bought more antique brown. On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 8:53:53 AM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Good to know, thanks! Perhaps I'll do leather tape then. The look is fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Dukeman
My leather bar tape has been on for 2-1/2 years. On Jun 24, 2016 7:31 AM, "Jon Craig" wrote: > Wow - that does look nice! :) > > Question about leather bar tape - how long does it last? I can't fathom > dropping $70 on bar tape if it has to be replaced as often as the

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
Thanks Jon, I got 6 years from the first wrap. That was a lot of riding, some rain, and especially a lot of sweat (s Texas). The failure mode was the leather stretched, separated from the adhesive film, and began sliding around more than I could tolerate - that was only on one side, and the

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Lungimsam
My Sam had noodles. Switched the brake and silver bar ends over to staches. Climbing was great. Standing while rocking the bike by the bar ends capital. Brake lever reach stupendous. But my hands always hurt with staches so went to albas then back to noodles. I love the noodles. Here is an

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Wow - that does look nice! :) Question about leather bar tape - how long does it last? I can't fathom dropping $70 on bar tape if it has to be replaced as often as the cotton stuffs! On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 9:21:48 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > > Just wanted to add something cool. My

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
Just wanted to add something cool. My moustache cockpit is on my old Raleigh. With Rivendell bar-end pods, I'm still using the Zeus shift levers that were installed on my bike as downtube shifters in 1978.

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
I have Brooks leather bar wrap on my moustache bars - in fact, just replaced them last week. Again, I love it, and it's funny how many people at stops have to touch it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Dukeman
Jon, Talk to Mark or one of the guys at Riv... They have a variety of options & different shifters and mounts besides Dura-Ace bar ends and Paul thumbies. Prices vary also. Jon "FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS RIDE JUNK " On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Jon Craig wrote:

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Huh! Interesting - I didn't know you could jury-rig barend shifters onto thumbie mounts! Does that work with any shifters or just the DA's? On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 8:46:39 AM UTC-4, Jon in central Colorado wrote: > > I have Albatross bars with Dura Ace 9 spd bar ends mounted on Paul >

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Valerie Yates
I purchased a Sam off this list that came with albastache bars and bar-end shifters. This was my first non-drop bar on a road+ bike and my first experience with bar-end shifters. I loved the combo immediately. They are really convenient - easy to reach and easy to use. I suppose I have to be a

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Did you relocate the shifters when you were in 'stache configuration? On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 8:25:29 AM UTC-4, drew wrote: > > I did. It worked great. I have since moved to noodles to make my Sam feel > more roady and have less overlap with my other bikes, which all kind of err > on the

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Austin B
Good questions--I'm riding with a Noodle on mine but am most curious about the moustache bars, never having tried one. Wondering how they affect climbing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread drew
I did. It worked great. I have since moved to noodles to make my Sam feel more roady and have less overlap with my other bikes, which all kind of err on the touring side of things. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Jon Craig
Hm. Well, I really thought to put on some nice grips instead, but maybe you are wiser. :D On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 8:11:41 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > > answering out of turn, bar end shifters on moustache bars is a match made > in bike heaven > > On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 5:28:59 AM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: Sam with 'staches?

2016-06-24 Thread Ron Mc
answering out of turn, bar end shifters on moustache bars is a match made in bike heaven On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 5:28:59 AM UTC-5, Jon Craig wrote: > > How many out there installed a 'stache bar (Mous or Alba!) on their Sam? > Did you keep the existing bar-end shifters? Or move them to