[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-17 Thread Lucero
I bought a new San Marcos frame about 8 months ago. Must have been a 'tweener, as it's the newer tiburon blue with mid-fork braze ons on the older banana bend fork: http://imgur.com/a/U12iY On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 8:20:00 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote: > > That new model San Marcos fork looks

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-17 Thread Evan Baird
They never update their photos. They've been like that for about a year. On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 8:20:00 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote: > That new model San Marcos fork looks like it has more of a nice bend than the > earlier sky blue version. Did they change the fork style for the new version

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-17 Thread Lungimsam
That new model San Marcos fork looks like it has more of a nice bend than the earlier sky blue version. Did they change the fork style for the new version? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-17 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
i couldnt find these at all. thats a good looking frame. thanks! joe kelly On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 2:08:15 AM UTC-5, Evan Baird wrote: > > There's a whole set here. > > https://flic.kr/s/aHskmXiehz > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread Evan Baird
There's a whole set here. https://flic.kr/s/aHskmXiehz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To pos

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread 'joe kelly' via RBW Owners Bunch
hi soma announced some new sizes that included a 54cm and 57cm for 650b wheels. there are no pictures on the internet of either san marcos that i can find. has anyone here actually seen one of these? pics? thanks joe kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread cyclotourist
Good points, Jim. Basically the DTT shouldn't be a turn off for that many people. Although I think the 59cm frame is pretty well with standard frame size for a lot of people. Isn't a (traditional) 58cm frame the most popular size overall? That or 56, I forget... Still though, I don't think that he

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread James Warren
If they did away with the DTT on the 59 cm size, it would be similar to the largest size single-top-tube frames offered by most major brands. The Specialized's in "61" for example, have a seat tube that is really quite a few cm less than 61 cm. (What they call "61" is an effective 61 if you ran

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread cyclotourist
This. I'm not anti-DTT, but have fully consumed the Kool-Aide. I can't imagine even trying to explain it to the general bike-buying public. It's the equivalent of opening up a conversation with a description of your favorite RPG 12th level elf-princess wizard with a stranger at a bar. Not that I

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Just got one through my LBS. Soma has a couple of 51cms left. May be worth pulling the trigger on a new one. Love the classic curve of the fork and the fact that the new ones have the mid fork braze-ons. It would be a shame to kill off this model. Seems to be a good bang for the buck compared to

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread A CT Cyclist
That's really a shame. Makes me want to buy another one. Perhaps if they did away with the double top tube in the larger sizes it would appeal to more non Riv folks. On Jan 16, 2016 11:00 AM, "islaysteve" wrote: > But is it really Grant's call? I know that he killed the Bleriot but that > was a

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread islaysteve
But is it really Grant's call? I know that he killed the Bleriot but that was a diffent deal; Riv-badged bike. Soma may have something to say about this one. For course, they may not be selling well Soma also. I agree, it would be a shame. I'd probably have bought one if I hadn't found my B

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-16 Thread Chad
That's a shame. The SM is such a great deal for someone wanting to join the Riv family! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+un

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-15 Thread Evan Baird
I've heard rumblings that the San Marcos may not be long for this world. I had hoped that increasing the tire clearance would give it a bump, but apparently they're talking about killing it off unless sales suddenly increase. I guess it's ultimately up to Riv, since it's technically their proje

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-08 Thread cyclotourist
My only thought on discs, is that stock/mass-produced bikes with discs have VERY stiff forks. I've ridden my Salsa La Cruz back to back with my Riv custom, same 40mm MSO tires, and WOW, what a difference in compliance between the two. The La Cruz is like riding a jack hammer. Riv is totally plush.

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-08 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Thanks for the input, all. Very helpful. Thinking of pulling the trigger on a SM frameset and building one up. Or there seem to be a couple of 51cm completes on eBay right now. All reviews so far have been positive. Hoping I can replicate the feel of my Jones bars with some albatross/stache with

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-08 Thread Chad
This is true, I have both the Fatty Rumpkins and Compass Babyshoes and the rumpkins are indeed a little taller with the extra thick tread. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving ema

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-08 Thread Philip Kim
I don't think there were tire clearance changes persay, but the fork was definitely changed. I believe the first version's fork brake offset was really weird, which could account for the Fatty Rumps being too tall. On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 9:13:13 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > > My girlfrien

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-08 Thread Zach Duval
There is indeed a 650B San Marcos on eBay currently (no relation to seller) that sports Soma GRs in 42. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-08 Thread Tim Gavin
My girlfriends SM is a 51 cm 1st generation (pearly blue). AFAIK, besides the color change (to tiburon blue), the only other changes from 1st to 2nd generation San Marcos are to the fork: new fork legs with a more "classic" curve, and mid-fork eyelets, a la Riv. I don't believe there were any oth

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-07 Thread Utah
Hi Sean, I think the most important thing you have mentioned is that you want to rive very upright. I own a cross check and an LHT. I recently bought my wife a Rivendell (Betty Foy) because I could not get the cross check that I bought for her to be comfortable at all. We almost bought the Sa

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-07 Thread Chad
You may be right. I was looking at the 650b SM a couple of years ago before I bought my Sam. Mark at Riv said he test fit a 650x41 Fatty Rumpkin and it was too tall at the fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscr

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-07 Thread A CT Cyclist
Tim what year is your girlfriend's San Marco? It looks like the tire clearance has gotten wider than the first editions were. Mine is a 2012, at that time the stated clearance was 35 mm without fenders, 33.3 mm with. On Jan 7, 2016 9:09 AM, "Tim Gavin" wrote: > I agree that Paul Racers give yo

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-07 Thread Tim Gavin
I agree that Paul Racers give you more fender clearance than Tektro R559 calipers. I use Racers on my Riv Road (where clearance is very tight) and I can comfortably fit VO "hammered" 45 mm fenders over 650 x 38 Pari-Motos. The arms of the R559 calipers intrude more into the vertical fender space.

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-07 Thread Philip Kim
I fit 42 with fenders fine with Paul Brakes. Other San Marcos on this list has 42 Marathons with SKS fenders. On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 9:27:01 PM UTC-5, A CT Cyclist wrote: > > Of course fff on a Surly but I was talking about the Soma San Marco, which > if I understand correctly Sean is

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread A CT Cyclist
Of course fff on a Surly but I was talking about the Soma San Marco, which if I understand correctly Sean is now leaning towards. On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 6:46:03 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > According to Surly's web site > http://surlybikes.com/bikes/straggler/frame_highlights

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
According to Surly's web site http://surlybikes.com/bikes/straggler/frame_highlights / / /*Tire Clearance*/ // /Our Fatties Fit Fine (FFF) stays and our beautiful slope-crowned custom fork provide room for tires up to 700c x 42mm! With fenders!/ On 01/06/2016 06:31 PM, A CT Cyclist wrote: I d

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread A CT Cyclist
I don't think you can squeeze 42 mm tires with fenders. Soma's website states 38 mm without fenders 35 mm with. From what I can tell you can get the Straggler as a complete bike or a frame only. On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 4:48:59 PM UTC-5, se...@austin.utexas.edu wrote: > > Thanks for the

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
> > Thanks for the replies and feedback all! I am thinking the San Marcos > would probably be perfect. Up to this point, I am able to get the bars high > enough on my LHT due to having an uncut steerer, but the quill stem > certainly would provide easier adjustment not to mention be more appeal

Re: [RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread cyclotourist
I think the Straggler looks like a great bike (loved the purple), but I think it would be overbuilt for your needs (randos, centuries). I mean you can do it of course, but the bike is going to be still & solid. That's going to work against you at the 237 kilometer mark! As Bill mentioned, the Wolve

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
Some people run the SOMA Wolverine with 650B wheels also. If I wanted to set up a 650B disk road bike today, that would likely be the frameset I'd work with. On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 8:38:38 AM UTC-8, se...@austin.utexas.edu wrote: > > Hi Group, > > I am contemplating a new bike buil

[RBW] Re: San Marcos or Straggler 650B?

2016-01-06 Thread s...@austin.utexas.edu
Sorry, missed the "disc" brakes of the Straggler (in the first paragraph). Luckily both bikes can handle brakes :)! - Sean On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 10:38:38 AM UTC-6, se...@austin.utexas.edu wrote: > > Hi Group, > > I am contemplating a new bike build for long distance riding (centuries,