I am not an expert, but I AM a Clem fan. To be fair, I’ve never ridden a
Gus/Susie, but (and don’t hate me, Gus and Susie fans) I’ve never
understood the allure of that bike. Looks and names and decals aside
though, I wonder if there’s a difference in the frames re: weight. Like
you, I’m a thin
Weight differences between Clem L and Susie: Right off the bat the problem
I have here is I didn't have both bikes at the same time so take this for
what it's worth (it's not worth much cuz who knows how good my memory is on
this??). I've owned a 52cm Clem L and 53cm Susie, both with the the whe
I have a 52 Clementine, Large Gus (a heavy duty Susie), 60 Betty Foy. The
Clementine is by far the easiest to get on and off of, but requires the
longest stem to get the handlebars high enough. I should have gotten the 55
Clementine, but it was purchased partly with my girlfriend in mind, who ha
Interesting topic that I am enjoying while awaiting my in transit Clem L
52. They never offered a 55 so I think Laing meant 59. I really like the
looks of the Clem L, more so than the Susie/Gus even, although they both
are cool styles. I never thought much about the weight of a bicycle until I
Yep, the first weight weenie upgrade anyone should do to a bike is wheels
and tires. A that mass out there on the ends of the frame making big
circles is noticeable; the order is tires, tubes (or ditch them like Leah
did on her Platy), spokes, hubs. It's the business!
On Tuesday, Novembe
I know, I skipped rims on my list. Fill in the blank! 😬
Joe "word skipper" Bernard
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 6:31:52 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Yep, the first weight weenie upgrade anyone should do to a bike is wheels
> and tires. A that mass out there on the ends of the frame maki
I had a 59 Clem H from the first run, and now have a 56 Suzie. In both
cases, I'm pretty sure mine were the first frames pre-ordered from Riv. - I
had followed the development closely and both spoke to me as being the
perfect bike for what I wanted at the time, and I pulled the trigger the
se
Thinking about my earlier, rambling repsonse, I thougth I should add some
revisions/clarifications. These are mostly comments about how my
experience would be different from yours, Kiley, based on body type
differneces:
Regarding stack height on the susie, I think I actually had it backwards.
I have a 45cm Clem L (2017 with 26 x 2.1 tires, SunRingle RhynoLite rims)
and a Small Gus (2020 with 27.5 x 2.4, Cliffhanger rims) so caveat my
experiences as a shorter (78cm PBH) and a "stouter" (220 lbs) rider than
you. Also, I think I'm supposed to be on a 52cm Clem so there's a slight
apple
@Doug H, I posted the Protogallop in this thread
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/j5vUNKjgsUE/m/rD97QHpSCQAJ
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 2:48:39 PM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
> I have a 45cm Clem L (2017 with 26 x 2.1 tires, SunRingle RhynoLite rims)
> and a Small Gus (2020
I've since changed the stem and tires. I should get an updated photo
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:36:15 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
> @Doug H, I posted the Protogallop in this thread
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/j5vUNKjgsUE/m/rD97QHpSCQAJ
>
> On Wednesday, November
Thank you Johnny. I must have missed that thread but the bike looks really
good. An all road kind of vibe.
Doug
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:36:49 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
> I've since changed the stem and tires. I should get an updated photo
>
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:
Thank you for the exhaustive answer! I chickened out on the Clem L in the
lottery... which of course now is a semi-regret. Ah, a resale awaits and
will find me at the right time.
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 7:48:34 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
> I had a 59 Clem H from the first run, and now hav
I am so late to this party What pray tell is a "Gallop"? I clicked on
the link and am very curious. Yes, it is partly because it is a spectacular
shade of orange; I am every bit a girl (Like Leah and Raspberry Sparkle)
and when it comes to orange... And it is a mixte.
Pointing me to links
The Charlie H. Gallop is not exactly a true mixte but it does have a lovely
swoopy top tube. It is a tigged road bike basically designed to be a cross
between a Clem and a Roadini. While its a road bike primarily it is
designed to be used with swept back bars. I consider it probably closer to
While we’re going "arg!"...
A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be answered
just by hanging a bike on the scale at your LBS.
I was hoping Leah would weigh Peppermint Platy before and after her build,
but I guess that’s OBE.
How about somebody go weigh their Clem, a
I'm guessing it's not so much a conspiracy as it is the fact that a lot of
rivendell owners are the type of riders who just don't think or care as
much about weight as some other bikers do. At least I'm that way: I dont
buy cheap frames or put unnecessarily heavy or fragile components on them
I'm surprised that the Sam seems to weigh less than the Homer!
Were the 2015 Sam's made in Taiwan?
I have a 56 cm Toyo Homer which must be a lighter frame and fork. And, it
has lighter Pacenti Brevet wheels with Paris-Moto tubed tires. When I
weighed it a few years ago (get on digital bathroom sc
I can lose the weight of two complete Rivendell spec complete Clems off of
my body, and still be overweight, so saving grams off of the bike and low
spoke counts are not as important to me as they were back in the seventies.
So why does my Gus Boots Wilsen have a titanium stem and handlebars? An
Hetchins52-
No, the Sam weighed about 3/4 pounds more than the Homer, comparably
equipped: 30.5 vs 29 lb 14 oz (29.875). This is the problem with weighing
- the Homer was 650B but had heavier tires, etc., etc.
It just comes down to weighing what you actually ride, and then basing off
of that.
2020 Clem stock build, brooks B17, thunder burt tires, light tubes, small
saddle bag - 31lbs.
On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 12:34:47 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
> While we’re going "arg!"...
> A number of threads have asked, and one of the questions could be answered
> just by hanging a bike
That ain't bad at all, Gill. I would have guessed 5 pounds more for sure.
Clems are light! 🙂
Joe Bernard
On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 4:03:54 PM UTC-8 Gill wrote:
> 2020 Clem stock build, brooks B17, thunder burt tires, light tubes, small
> saddle bag - 31lbs.
> On Friday, November 19, 202
If I can lift a bike over a fallen tree then it is light enough. I remember
when I had full front a rear pannier racks and was carrying way more
camping stuff than I needed including 2kgs of coffee making paraphenalia. I
went to pull my bike over a fallen tree and almost couldn't lift it. I got
The Clem L is an excellent bike for all around riding. I ride it on trails,
on roads, and light "mountain biking". The Susie (which I've never tried),
looks like a more offroad mountain bike, and if you're doing more of that,
maybe the Susie is your thing. But if you're looking for an all rounde
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 6:44 PM Doug H. wrote:
> ... I do think at some point a bike can be too heavy and I can understand
> Leah getting a lighter weight wheelset for hers.
For me, of all the non-road-type bikes (perhaps that should read
"non-roadie-type-bikes," because of course you ride Clem
Meandering off of this particular juxtaposition of thoughts: the frameset
was 1970s and French and light: I also have a Libertas frameset, tout 531
and Belgian and light; and I wonder if French-standard road-bike 531 tubing
back in the early '70s was particularly light, because I've had other 531
f
This is the sort of report -- there have been others -- that keeps the
Clem, despite my misgivings, on the "some day" list. Well described.
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:48 PM iamkeith wrote:
> ... The Clem feels like a true Rivendell, with a low center of gravity,
> stable and instantly comfortable.
What type of riding are we talking about? To me that would make a
difference. If it's mostly paved then I am going to be biased and say wait
until the Gallop is officially released. I have my proto built up as a 1x11
and with pacenti wheels it's in the 20 lb range. Light, fast and has the
great
Johnny,
Have you posted photos of your proto Gallop? I'd be keen on seeing it.
Doug
Athens, Ga
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Johnny Alien
wrote:
> What type of riding are we talking about? To me that would make a
> difference. If it's mostly paved then I am going to be biased and say wait
> un
I ride mostly light trails and some roads. More unpaved than paved but
nothing "gnarly"; I don't have a death wish.
On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 6:33:50 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
> What type of riding are we talking about? To me that would make a
> difference. If it's mostly paved the
Or, if you have a decent body scale, weight before and while holding the
bike.
I'll be interested in hearing Clem weights and corresponding builds.
I do think Riv framesets are heavier than they need to be, but OTOH, so
many people find Clems and such to ride "lighter" than their weight; this
inc
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:55 PM lconley wrote:
> ... So why does my Gus Boots Wilsen have a titanium stem and handlebars?
> And I do own a Park bicycle scale and know the weight of my 1971 Gitane
> before and after I applied Weigle frame saver.
Man! I thought I was bad! (Though I'm far less pat
Just an entirely negligible aside, but I used to go through all sorts of
contortions to weigh my Riv Roads and other road bikes by gingerly
(gingerly-ly?) balancing them on a plank itself precariously balanced on
the pan of a 25-lb USPS-certified Pelouze spring package scale. The
bathroom scale met
I know…big missed opportunity on my part - I absolutely should have weighed
those bikes but I was like a kid at Christmas and got caught up in the shiny
new bike excitement. Totally forgot about weighing the thing.
Someone mentioned (was it this thread?) about knowing how a bike feels
weight-w
Leah, you picked a lovely time of the year to move to Michigan! Bundle up!
Eric
in Ohio, but who ends up in MI all to frequently
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 6:34 PM Leah Peterson
wrote:
> I know…big missed opportunity on my part - I absolutely should have
> weighed those bikes but I was like a kid
Eric
Where in Ohio are you?
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 3:47 AM Eric Daume wrote:
> Leah, you picked a lovely time of the year to move to Michigan! Bundle up!
>
> Eric
> in Ohio, but who ends up in MI all to frequently
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 6:34 PM Leah Peterson
> wrote:
>
>> I know…big missed
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