Re: [RBW] Re: Trail calculator

If I get another bike I'm hoping it will be a super light low trail bike like Boulder sells. I carry small front loads. I have two Rivendell bikes that I love. But I'm also interested to see what skinny tube low trail bikes ride like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail calculator

Definitely! On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:08 PM Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > On 12/11/2016 01:36 PM, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > > Anybody on this Rivendell list a low trail convert? > > > > Yes > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail calculator

On 12/11/2016 01:36 PM, Daniel Jackson wrote: Anybody on this Rivendell list a low trail convert? Yes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Trail calculator

Anybody on this Rivendell list a low trail convert? Traveled to that land of Pacific Northwest forest service roads where Grant just don't go? Muahahaha. Daniel in the Great Northeastern Forest On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 1:25:11 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I keep seeing this and

[RBW] Re: Trail calculator

I keep seeing this and thinking "There's a calculator for single track? Why?" Sardonic grin. Oh. THAT kind of trail. Shrug. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 4:09:30 PM UTC-7, Les Lammers wrote: > > This will allow comparison of different frames and give a pretty

[RBW] Re: Trail calculator

Yes Les! Thanks for posting! Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 6:09:30 PM UTC-5, Les Lammers wrote: > > This will allow comparison of different frames and give a pretty good idea > of how the steering will be. Out of curiosity, I compared a 55 Sam to a 55 > Chevoit

[RBW] Re: Trail calculator

Good to post, Les. FWIW, it's been around a hot minute. I don't recall if Jim or Sheldon came up with it, as it was a further back than my memory can handle. Use the "compare bikes" link at the bottom to view your current rides to others. Very handy tool to have! Cheers, Bill in Roswell

[RBW] Re: Trail

Brian Good write up. A tabular listing of key parameters (trail, STA, HTA) would have been hepful along with the main tubing specs. Do you find 1 more livelier than the other??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, January 7, 2016 at 2:13:09 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: > Dave Johnston had

[RBW] Re: Trail

Thanks for that write up. I found it well reasoned and helpful. I'm not an expert by any means and in fact have no experience with very low trail bikes, but have read Jan's material and wondered about them. One question, which you didn't address directly but perhaps implied, is how each bike

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

We were thinking of doing that- but Seaview is wicked steep at the very beginning- probably'd have to walk our bikes. Once one the ridge it's nice- short. http://g.co/maps/nbgdy I love this multi-trail thing: what a great way to get out of traffic, into nature, but still feel fast and smooth

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

I like that by posting links here, we can use any mapping site we like, which seems 5x as inclusive. A short description of length, difficulty, and location, along with the link is probably useful for long-term searchability. City, County/ Parish, state, length, road surface ('mixed terrain'), and

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

That might work- use searchable terms in the body of the post, and something descriptive and easy to sort in the Subject line: Subject: Trail Database: [location, state, approx mileage] e.g., Subject: Trail Database: Berkeley, CA, 12 miles Then a fuller description and links in the body. BTW,

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

When I lived in Berkeley, my favorite mixed-terrain route was to take the seaview trail from Inspiration Point up to Grizzly Peak. The on-road parts of the ride varied, but it was typical to go up Spruce and come down Claremont or Tunnel. No Rivendells back then, so I did it on a 700c hybrid

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps search and find five or six

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

Yes- my first 'country bike' ride. It started out pretty downhill, then rolling hills. Must do again, or try variants; head further east, or the Marin headlands, etc. It's nice to be cruising along in the wilderness, no car traffic. Tse-Sung On Jan 2, 5:07 pm, René Sterental

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in Yahoo Maps. But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it maps your route, which you can post, share, etc. http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587 Notice that you can get avg

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to look how fast I did this climb for my taste. The home page says Track your progress and compete against friends. Not really the attitude I expect prevails around this list. I don't need to share my watt output with the world to

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

I have something called 511 bike mapper in my links list: http://511contracosta.org/bike/# I've used it to find rides but never set them up. Regards, Ray On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where people have

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost, get found, and have a good time. I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

I too am on the hunt for new places to ride but I've found more locally oriented sources to be the most helpful. This list is too geographically spread out. I'd suggest you get a local map and dive into google. I've found lots of great ride reports and useful info this way. Now all I gotta do

[RBW] Re: Trail

I'm an admirer of both Grant and Jan, but... DougP and I traded bikes during a ride a few months back. His high- trail Riv and my French style rando with super low trail. Both, IIRC, with loaded front bags. The short version is that, while there were differences, they were pretty minor, and both

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

I believe this discussion is what lead to the fall of the Ottoman Empire. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Noel emiller3...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an admirer of both Grant and Jan, but... DougP and I traded bikes during a ride a few months back. His high- trail Riv and my French style rando

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

This will be somewhat tangential but related. Now that the 'winter' has begun here in N. Calif. I've started riding my fendered Saluki. The rest of the year I'm pretty much on my Riv custom as I'm quite fond of it. The Saluki has more wheel flop than the custom and I don't know (or really

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

Oh, and I thought it was the topic of planing. -JimD On Nov 20, 2010, at 9:46 AM, cyclotourist wrote: I believe this discussion is what lead to the fall of the Ottoman Empire. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Noel emiller3...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an admirer of both Grant and Jan, but...

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

No, that lead to the fall of the Aztecs. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, and I thought it was the topic of planing. -JimD On Nov 20, 2010, at 9:46 AM, cyclotourist wrote: I believe this discussion is what lead to the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

Do you need to believe that zip ties and Wald baskets are cool on a $4,000 handmade bike, in order to be saved? :) Which hopefully frees us up to talk about less contentious topics, like religion or politics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail

On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 22:05 -0800, doug peterson wrote: Kelly: +1 for Jim's suggestions. It's one of those topics that can make for endless hours of esoteric discussion, but don't let yourself get wrapped around the axle over it. Two of the most intelligent qualified people to have

[RBW] Re: Trail

On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 22:05 -0800, doug peterson wrote: Kelly: +1 for Jim's suggestions. It's one of those topics that can make for endless hours of esoteric discussion, but don't let yourself get wrapped around the axle over it. Two of

[RBW] Re: Trail

Kelly: +1 for Jim's suggestions. It's one of those topics that can make for endless hours of esoteric discussion, but don't let yourself get wrapped around the axle over it. Two of the most intelligent qualified people to have opinions on bicycle design, Grant Petersen Jan Heine, are at polar

[RBW] Re: Trail (I know, I know) and handlebar width

What Ryan said. Chris On Feb 8, 9:01 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Bear with me for a moment: All else being equal, should a bike with more trail have wider bars to harmonize with the handling of a bike with less trail? (In terms of switching back and forth between two bikes.)

[RBW] Re: Trail (I know, I know) and handlebar width

I like my bars a touch wider on my higher trail bikes. Ryan On Feb 8, 7:01 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Bear with me for a moment: All else being equal, should a bike with more trail have wider bars to harmonize with the handling of a bike with less trail? (In terms of switching