Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread René Sterental
Here is some empirical learnings: When Rick at D&D (RBW official/recommended painter, who apparently also painted my custom for Steve Rex) re-painted my Homer and my Hunqapillar, he told me that paint needed a long period of time to "cure" or whatever the correct term is, and until that process wa

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Patrick, I saw that setup when I first started looking at Fiats. I'm not convinced that little plastic spoiler is a good base for a rack clamp (the one on my convertible top *definitely* isn't). Yes, back in the olden times people would modify 500/600s with Abarth parts. My 500 Abarth is a twic

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Patrick Moore
It was long, long ago (in a galaxy far, far away, too) but my first Riv custom, early 1995, Waterford built and painted, had very nice green paint that chipped easily. I have to add, too, that in my limited experience with trunk racks, I've never had one chip my paint. Patrick "if you don't like i

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Jonathan Anderson
Oh boy, I've been waiting for a thread like this! I was installing a front rack in my building's bike garage and thoughtlessly leaned my bike against a haggard ebike to admire my work. It slipped and the TT scraped (screeeach) against the licence plate hanger of the ebike. My Clem, yes, just a

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Bob B
> I despise those trunk racks. Yep, me too! I put it in the back (of my Subaru wagon) when I can flip down the rear passenger seats, but this time I was traveling with people in the back seat, and in case you didn't know, 58cm Hunqs are huge. No way i was getting that in the cargo area of my

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Joe Bernard
I despise those trunk racks. I'm in the process of adding cable splitters to my Appaloosa so I can remove wheels and bars, then put the frame in the back of my little Fiat. I won't transport it often, but it's going semi-rinko when I do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
True. You say "trunk rack" and I hear "paint destroyer" On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 08/04/2016 02:49 PM, Bob B wrote: > > I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my > > car. > > Racks like that are notorious for d

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/04/2016 02:49 PM, Bob B wrote: I think it happened while transporting the bike on a trunk rack on my car. Racks like that are notorious for doing that to bicycle paint jobs. Ditch the trunk rack and get a wagon, where you can carry the bike inside, or a roof rack (but if you do, be

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Brian Campbell
Bob, I feel your pain! I did the same thing on a car rack on my new A. Homer Hilsen! (Waterford built). Mine happened on the seat tube and took some of the decal with it! I sealed it up with clear nail polish but knowing it was my own doing and could have been prevented, is salt in the wound!

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2016-08-04 Thread Bob B
I kinda feel like venting on this topic. My 3-week old Hunq got a big paint chip on the top tube. I'm not faulting Riv or Waterford; I didn't see it happen and can't speak with much knowledge to the quality of Waterford paint compared to others. But since it's so new it kinda sucks. I think it

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-17 Thread Ryan Fleming
I have a 1997 Waterford-built all-rounder and I think the paint job is holding up really quite well. Obviously, it's not a Joe Bell paint job. Now, to be fair,my AR isn't in daily hard use ... because I don't have totally secure inside storage at work.The paint job does have a few minor nicks a

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-17 Thread Garth
Waterford has painted so many frames there is no way to sum them all up into generalizations . I myself do not hold them up as some kind or perfect, beyond reproach company , from personal experience . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-17 Thread Addison Wilhite
I've found Gunnar paint to be very good. They got a bad rap early on with some poor paint and that reputation has lived on in the internet ether far beyond the reality of the quality of paint since the late oughts. Not quite the same as Waterford but close. Best, Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academ

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread cyclotourist
I have a Gunnar (Waterford brand) with a lot chips. But it's my MTB that I crash into trees and rocks and stuff, so not a direct comparison. I think it's a touch softer than my Japanese painted Rivs, but not hugely so (Not going to compare it to a JB Imron paint job). The seat tube is out of spec

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread Don Compton
I have a Roadeo built and painted by Waterford and the paint is flawless. However, I am very careful with my bike. On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 4:38:34 PM UTC-7, Richard L wrote: > > I've read on several other forums that Waterford paint jobs leave > something to be desired. Complaints v

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread Comotion001
Richard, I own a 1992 Paramount, original owner, built and painted by Waterford, and a 2007 Waterford, both have excellent paint jobs and are holding up well. Bill On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 7:38:34 PM UTC-4, Richard L wrote: > > I've read on several other forums that Waterford paint jo

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread Richard L
My question is out of curiosity. Just wondering if members' experiences are the same as what I've read elsewhere. As with the vast majority of Rivendell owners, I have only good to say about Rivendell. I'm currently not looking for another bike, and if I was it would be a Waterford-built Ri

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread john muhl
The paint on my Waterford Atlantis is noticeably tougher than the paint on my Taiwanese Betty Foy or Toyo Saluki. So if you are choosing amongst Rivs based on paint toughness the Waterfords seem the clear winner to me. On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 6:38:34 PM UTC-5, Richard L wrote: > > I'

Re: [RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread Patrick Moore
My first custom was Waterford build and painted. The build was very good; the paint was indeed prone to chipping. But that was over 20 years ago; I can't say if their paint today is the same. On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 4:38:34 PM UTC-7, Richard L wrote: > I've read on several other foru

[RBW] Re: Waterford Paint

2015-09-16 Thread Bill Lindsay
Hi Richard What is this research feeding into? Are you considering a Waterford bike, but maybe you'll pass if the overwhelming evidence is the paint is poor? Do you already have a bad Waterford paintjob and you are looking for corroboration as you decide what to do about it? Are you just cur