[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

IF YOU WEAR A SIZE XXL, there's a seller on eBay with one (or possibly more) Nike Ventile shells (with removable liner)... Retail $725... blowout price $149 !!! I was a bit leery (at this price) and took a gamble, but I just received mine in the mail, and it appears to be the genuine article; a

[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

Has anyone looked at the price of a Hilltrek Ventile jacket? This is very reasonably priced regardless of where it is made. The type of cotton used to make this type of material is rare and therefore pricey. I think we all know that Rivendell doesn't mark up the items they have made an unreason

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Good points D Patrick. Hoods do make a lot of sense backpacking. Depending on where you are cycling though best to leave them off. Glad to read you are a Tilley fan as well. Great hats. On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:38:04 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > It all depends on what style of

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It all depends on what style of riding you do. For bikepacking, a rain hood rocks. There's rarely a need to check for trees overtaking me, or to look back to ensure I merge well between rocks. Once at camp, a hood beats a hat vs. rain and wind very time. And for those times when I'm on the road

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> Hood, waist drawstring, pockets galore, plenty of room for under layers, and a certain all-round style, ... all these things gotta be just right As I understand the description, the Riv jacket does not have a hood. This actually makes sense given this is a Rivendell design. Hoods block lat

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Well, if the weather in Tucson continues tomorrow as it is currently, the riders in the El Tour de Tucson may wish they had an English Ventile jacket! Fortunately, I'm not riding in the event, and haven't in a number of years although I did in the past (finishing 36th amongst the riders in the

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Ventile (and similar) cotton is essentially hand-made fabric, involving painstaking detail from selecting the cotton and to setting up the weaving process; hence the high cost. It IS indeed nice stuff (if you can afford it). But because of the high cost, I have to think of Ventile as being li

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> If we're still talking about that Riv Italian-Ventile rain jacket, trust > me: a Goodwill tweed blazer will not perform the same, not even close. > I have a Ventile rain jacket, UK-made, now 9 years old. Contrary to > Riv's wishy washy disclaimers, it's waterproof. Really waterproof. It >

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> Bicycle hipster gear. Yours is a fairly unique definition of hipster if you think anyone who actually thinks themselves one would wear this jacket. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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On 11/21/2013 11:53 PM, Ken Mattina wrote: Really? A bike blazer? You could get a nice tweed blazer at Goodwill for 25 bucks. If we're still talking about that Riv Italian-Ventile rain jacket, trust me: a Goodwill tweed blazer will not perform the same, not even close. I have a Ventile rai

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> Really? A bike blazer? You could get a nice tweed blazer at Goodwill for 25 > bucks. Or much less. The goodwill is the blazer capital of the world. I can find incredibly nice blazers from fine men's stores that no longer exist. I'm not a blazer guy but if I were, I could clean up. It would

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*I noticed they used individual tooth plastic zippers. In my humble opinion, those zippers suck. They should have gone with large coil zippers, which can "self heal". I have ruined two or three garments with individual tooth zippers. I will never buy a garment or bag that uses them again. Hopef

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Hatchet. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:31:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > G. I bought the one at Velo-Orange for $175. The left sleeve is longer > than the right. How can I fix that? > > > On 11/21/13, Bill Lindsay > wrote: > > What will there be more hand

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Dat's alotta dough, but I paid $600 for super-high-tech ski jacket 10 years ago, and it's still quite spectacular in those conditions. Light/durable/keeps-you-dry-and-warm is a tough combination to accomplish, and you pay for it. This looks like a very nice piece. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On

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G. I bought the one at Velo-Orange for $175. The left sleeve is longer than the right. How can I fix that? On 11/21/13, Bill Lindsay wrote: > What will there be more handwringing over? > > A. It's too expensive > B. It would have been nice if it had this feature > C. It's not as nice as what

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On Thursday, November 21, 2013 8:53:49 PM UTC-8, ken.m...@gmail.com wrote: > > Really? A bike blazer? You could get a nice tweed blazer at Goodwill for > 25 bucks. > I actually think that might be a good way to go with something like this. ~Tom > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jim Br

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What will there be more handwringing over? A. It's too expensive B. It would have been nice if it had this feature C. It's not as nice as what I wear (which was cheaper) D. Only conformists would buy that E. Unfair! they don't make it in my size! F. Unfair! they already sold out in my size!

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Wait, is this the C&V list? The comments confused me. Looks like a well made jacket you could wear or years, I am a firm believer in paying for quality. It's why I like my MB2 but love my Rivendell On Nov 21, 2013 11:53 PM, "Ken Mattina" wrote: > Really? A bike blazer? You could get a nice twee

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Really? A bike blazer? You could get a nice tweed blazer at Goodwill for 25 bucks. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: > Bicycle hipster gear. I'd rather wear cheaper clothing to commute in and > then change when I get there. > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Tom Virgil

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Bicycle hipster gear. I'd rather wear cheaper clothing to commute in and then change when I get there. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Tom Virgil wrote: > I like it. But that is some serious coin for a jacket. > > For a different look, > > you could pay > more

[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

I like it. But that is some serious coin for a jacket. For a different look, you could pay more you could pay less

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> > Sounds and looks like a very nice jacket. > Someone will have to post back and tell us if it works well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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I would assume the price reflects quality material and quality USA labor at USA wages. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsu

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Breathable, like a cotton shirt yet waterproof. Hearty. Those are the qualities that describe my ventile jacket, and this sounds very similar from Riv's description. If you don't like getting wet from your own sweat or from the rain, this is the jacket for you. With abandon, Patrick On Thursda

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> > What about it makes it worth such a high price? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

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It looks like a great jacket but it really needs a hood for double duty. Just a snap on hood would work just fine. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:22:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I think the new English Jacket looks pretty swank. Who is getting one > from the pre-sale? > > I'm def

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I spent less for my Scottish ventile Hilltrek Jacket and love it, plus I get a hood. From the description, I would expect this jacket to be lighter than mine, which is admittedly heavy and bulky by today's standards. I would love to see on in person. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, Novembe

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Great design, awesome details, and probably my favorite color combination to boot. Alas, I don't think I've shelled out $430.00 for my entire wardrobe. Somebody please buy a Medium and hate it, preferably to the tune of a >50% loss? Thanks in advance. Jeff "Would Spend It If I Had It" Hagedor