[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-28 Thread Mike Godwin
I used gorilla clear tape on fork legs, front rack and the downtube run to the rear fender connection. Like Jeff, wanted to drill holes but i chickened out. The tape is very sticky, the internet ad shows a happy parent repairing a kiddie pool under water or a leak on the outside. It may not be a

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-28 Thread ML / SF
If you happen to have a cantilever Sam I highly recommend the Busch & Müller Cross Bracket. On Monday, January 28, 2019 at 8:28:47 AM UTC-8, Neil Doran wrote: > > So many excellent responses, thank you! > > I neglected to mention that because my Sam has a pump peg, I have a > full-size Zefal tha

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-28 Thread Patrick Moore
The Seculas are very nice and bright lights (steady only) and -- I learned this from Kelly at K-Lites -- are designed to prevent overvolting; apparently the K Lite puts out enough power (it charges a large capacitor in a separate box) to blow unprotected rear dyno lamps (Thanks Steve Kurt, I think

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-28 Thread ascpgh
I lived with the benefits and deficits of battery lights for 10 of my 12 years of year round commuting. The inability of knowing how much charge remains in regular (or rechargeable) batteries or what effect cold will have on them broke the decision making tie for me. I was stuck in the cold an

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-28 Thread Neil Doran
So many excellent responses, thank you! I neglected to mention that because my Sam has a pump peg, I have a full-size Zefal that lives permanently beneath the top tube. So it makes some sense to run the wire along that mess. I also have a permanent mass of bags in front (Wald basket with shopsa

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-28 Thread Chris Corral
This is something I've never found a particularly elegant solution for on a bike without full fenders, framebag, etc. Usually I ziptie or tape to and run along the rear brake cable and housing. Then wrap around the seatstays. The black wire will stand out on a non-black frame but its functiona

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread JohnS
I'm with you PM on doubling up front and rear lights on my QB commuter. Dyno lights front and rear are very reliable while the second pair are rechargeable Trek lights. More than once, I've got home or to work and found one of the battery lights had gone out, needing a charge. As for clean rout

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Patrick Moore
I have used battery rear lights with dyno front lights many times, and I agree that with modern LEDs a battery rear makes a great deal of sense. But, speaking only for myself, I like the "no though involved" aspect of a dyno tail light -- and there is also the fact that yes, I've had rear battery l

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
I'll be the contrarian here, and ask if you would consider using a battery-powered rear light instead of having ugly runs of wire to the rear light. Dynamo rear lights are usually running at 0.3 watts, so even one AA-sized Eneloop will have enough for more than 10 hours of operation (>3 watt-ho

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
Good masking tape doesn't take paint off (especially bicycle paint), and leaves no residues. However, the adhesive is also pretty weak, and thus wouldn't be an acceptable tape for securing wire runs to the rear light. On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 12:11:18 AM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: > > Don't kno

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for this clarification; I may very well give it a try, since the Dahon (a fixie) has no rear brake along which to run the tail light wire, and zip ties (black! On light tanny-cream!) look ugly. I've used rubber cement, from Office Depot or what have you, for patching tubes, and while it did

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread ML / SF
My Homer is a relatively new Waterford - I wish I had the foresight to order my frame pre-drilled. Theoretically you can drill a clean hole without any need to repaint / touchup? On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 7:33:54 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > After checking in with Grant on my Saluki

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Justin, Oakland
Tony This is exactly what I’d like to do but absolutely refuse to do myself. Ideally I’d have it done when I get my Saluki modded for braze on centerpulls, a rear cable stop and widened chainstays somehow. And painted Chevrolet Synergy green. But that’s for after I get a job. Until then it’s

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Tony DeFilippo
After checking in with Grant on my Saluki I drilled a hole in the downtube to head tube lug window which I then chamfered. The exit hole is about an inch up the seat tube also chamfered. Drilling the frame isn't for the faint of heart but it worked for me and does clean up the wiring. My corr

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread ML / SF
Patrick - yes I think that’s it. I’m no expert on adhesives but the shoe goo packaging states it’s fit for leather, rubber, vinyl and canvas applications. Like you I’ve used shoe goo for its intended purpose many times in the past, so I was surprised how gummy it was after 24 hours of curing.

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-27 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Don't know about packing tape--probably depends on tape and paint. Will masking tape take paint off walls or do you pay extra for the blue tape? Probably a similar thing... Toshi On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 2:27 PM Kurt Manley wrote: > Will regular packing tape damage the paint when you take it of

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Shoe Goo would be wonderful if it didn't finally congeal to a immovable mass. I've used it for almost 40 years for running shoes and cycling shoes, and I use it for a lot of miscellaneous around-the-house fixes; but never in an application where I might have to remove it after it has dried hard. He

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-26 Thread ML / SF
I use Shoe Goo to run the wiring under the top tube on my Homer. Pretty much invisible, which is visually excellent. One thing to note is I shoulder my bike multiple times per day (apartment, BART, etc), so I need to reapply the goop every so often to keep wire fixed to frame. It stays pretty g

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-26 Thread Justin, Oakland
I would think about silicone to the ferules or the brake/shifter housing (or even cables!). That way you avoid the frame but have it attached to a nearly-permanent fixture on the frame. Then again I just wrap and pray usually. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to th

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-26 Thread Ash
I have use very small zip-ties loosely to tie the dyno wire to rear brake cable. Then it is zip-ties to rack strut and rack itself. It qualifies as semi-clean, IMO :) On Friday, 25 January 2019 08:49:36 UTC-8, Neil Doran wrote: > > I just added dyno power and front/rear lights to my Sam. The

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Kurt Manley
Will regular packing tape damage the paint when you take it off? Asking for an, umm, friend who taped their dynamo wire to the bottom of the top tube w packing tape On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:12:21 AM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: > > Hi Neil, > > 3M makes some helicopter tape. It is more exp

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Collin A
I'll throw some photos up when I get a chance. I use burly outdoor rated cabling rather than co-axial: https://www.mcmaster.com/7000t32 Alternatively, you could use some newbaums wrapped around the wire to make a snugger fit. On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 10:15:01 AM UTC-8, Neil Doran wrote: >

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Bob B
Personally, I would still go under the downtube because the cable will never be in the way. If you plan on using fenders later and wanted to be slick you could wire in a connector just after it swoops under the bb, which, if you put on fenders and wanna disappear the wire under the rear one, y

Re: [RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hi Neil, 3M makes some helicopter tape. It is more expensive, but it won't rip off the paint from your bike if you need to adjust the tape. I think that would be the benefit of paying more for the tape. Toshi On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 10:15 AM Neil Doran wrote: > Collin, nifty idea! I wouldn'

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Neil Doran
Collin, nifty idea! I wouldn't mind a pic or two if you get time. But it sounds like you might be working with coaxial cable, which is thicker 'n' stiffer than what I am using, and likely better suited to those P clamps...but I do have some of those clamps somewhere... Ttoshi, yes, I have seen

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Collin A
I use my 1/2 framebag to route my cables through the main triangle, then use the plethora of brazeons on the seatstays with the p-clamps provided with honjo/simworks fenders (https://sim.works/collections/small-parts-simworks-by-honjo/products/4rclipset) to do a clean route and allow for easy

[RBW] Re: clean-ish routing for generator lights

2019-01-25 Thread Tom Wyland
I would not categorize my routing job as particularly nifty or clean, but I use color-matched zip ties. Just keep in mind that a hidden wire that's on the wheel-size of the chain stay is more venerable to damage from road debris. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to