I think Mike's point isn't about price savings but more about small
boutique manufacturers who sell direct to the consumer and are pushing the
envelope on design function. As with the dearth of bicycle frame
builders/companies a similar renaissance is happening in the out door gear
arena. My
in the old days ( pre-internet) the REI sales were a good thing. But
these days you are usually better off shopping for the stuff across the
net. Just have to know what you want and search weekly until it crops up.
I've been a member for over 35 years but rarely buy much there anymore as
I've had fantastic luck finding items at their sales. Then stacking
the second item 50% option if available. Bike racks, shoes, clothes,
tents, sleeping bags... a plethora of swag! Following up on the next
day 50% lowest marked sale price is even awesomer.
But I'm easily amused.
On Mon, Jun 8,
I agree with Mike. I am always disappointed with REI these days. I did
notice last time I was at REI they're selling Novara cycling clothing
that's not lycra...following the trend.
~Hugh
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, 5:46 PM Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
in the old days ( pre-internet)
I've ridden my Sam with many, many different cargo arrangements at this
point, and perhaps oddly for this group, none (so far) have involved
camping/touring. Yesterday I rode my Sam with 33 lb. of toddler on the back
and 33lb. of groceries on the front (and 233 lb. of me in the middle...
hm).
Hi John, thanks for the reply! My Costco runs pale in comparison:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3605332794 +
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3604518445/
But I have carried a decent amount of stuff, and never had the huge
shimmy/resonation that I did on this trip. Maybe I
Congrats on sorting that out. Hope the 10 mm change doesn't cause any new
problems. I've never moved a seat more than a couple of mm at a time.
dougP
On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 2:38:29 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Update: I moved my saddle 10mm forward, and took the front basket
What! Science day!! I love science day, where do we begin? Oh so why did
you recently throw the Nitto lugged seat post on the ARer? And because it's
gorgeous is not sciencency enough.
~Hugh
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015, 6:37 PM cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it was artificially
Update: I moved my saddle 10mm forward, and took the front basket
totally off. I know, two variables, but that's how I roll. Loaded
everything on the back, with two lightly but evenly loaded panniers, a
tent and sleeping bag on top cinched down real tight with an strap vs.
a bungie.
I think it was artificially pushed back due to the Nitto lugged post.
I put that one relatively recently, and didn't need the full amount of
setback.
But now we can't have science day
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:14 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Congrats on sorting that out. Hope the 10
We can still do science day, just on Hugh's bike! And there's always the
allure of the REI gear sale. Just let me know guys if you're game to play.
dougP
On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 6:44:00 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
What! Science day!! I love science day, where do we begin? Oh so why did
Coming down for gear sale for sure, can bring bike on principle!
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:13 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
We can still do science day, just on Hugh's bike! And there's always the
allure of the REI gear sale. Just let me know guys if you're game to play.
dougP
On
I'm going to focus on the front rack, trying it w/ a bag cinched to it
tight w/out a basket, as well as w/ no rack at all.
Just trying to get it to pleasant to ride mode!
On Monday, June 1, 2015 at 8:33:14 PM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:
I bet it is your front rack and basket. The little front racks
I found that with the homer + mark's rack + basket load, if I didn't add a
second set of struts to the rack, I'd get these harmonic movements that got
really nerve wracking on decents, etc. Sort of solved it by either
1) irish strapping rack to the handlebars
2) replacing with big front rack
On
Slick!
-JimD
On May 29, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Jeffrey Marco jeffrey.marc...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's a pic of my setup. Just in case.
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For mid trail or Surly/Rivendell-like geometries, when configuring a rear load
it helps to keep as much weight as possible in front of the rear axle. The
contact patch of the rear tire is the fulcrum of a shimmy inducing lever.
For the front you want low panniers with mass nearly
Loaded handling question
Pun intended? ;)
On May 28, 2015 11:07 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Last week on a S240, had a great time (except for that one incident)
but the problem was really, really bad shimmy/wobble. So bad I really
couldn't take my hands off even for a bit
I bet it is your front rack and basket. The little front racks are a lot more
wobbly than you think. Grab your basket on each side and with the wheel between
your knees, rock each side up and down, and back and forth (yaw). Really flexy
isn't it? That motion is introduced into your forks and
With the caveat that I haven't tried a super stiff rear rack (e.g.
Tubus/Nitto), for whatever reason the same weight in the Hoss/Camper is way
less likely to cause shimmy for me on this bike. Part of the issue might be
my big feet (size 12s) mean panniers have to slide pretty far back. Even
with
Thanks JB! I have a Hoss bag just like yours, but don't know what I
would do w/ the tent if I used it. Although bivies are the new tents!
Did you ever use panniers, and was that any different than the big
rear bag? It seems like bag or panniers wouldn't really matter that
much differently as they
My experience with Herons, Quickbeam, and Bleriot is that adding any kind of
saddlebag weight increases shimmy propensity. The most stable handling I have
found, and it's remarkably stable, is all the weight up front, a little in the
handlebar bag and most of it in a pair of panniers at the hub
David:
As you can see, there is no single answer to the shimmy problem.
Personally, I think where the load is, both front / rear and high / low)
and how each of us rides are major factors. A good example is Joe Bartoe's
experience with shimmy on his Hilsen with a light front load, whereas my
Thanks Doug! Last weekend would have been a good time to talk about
this, but too busy scraping off the mud! :-)
I only had the one pannier this time, so figure that could be a
contributing factor. Although last time I had two, with same effect.
Hands-free isn't the absolute goal, but riding with
Last week on a S240, had a great time (except for that one incident)
but the problem was really, really bad shimmy/wobble. So bad I really
couldn't take my hands off even for a bit at any speed.
Rear loaded, with a little bit up front (sleeping bag). Pannier on one
side only but not a ton of
You have a lugged Nitto seat post, so I'm guessing you are looking for more
setback than something bog standard of that vintage (late '90s-early '00s?)
natively affords.
None of this helps you with no-hands, something I've never been able to
accomplish confidently on any GP design ('92 X0-1,
Interesting observations!
I have the lugged seatpost just cuz' I love how it looks :-) I don't
have the saddle all the way back in it as that was never the
intention, but can try moving it a touch forward. I ride loaded pretty
rarely, so for 98.7% of my riding everything is fine.
FWIW my
It took me a sec to find a photo, but it handled just as terribly when
it was straight rear-loaded with nothing on front. You can see it on
the right in this photo, with both panniers in place and packed full:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15187812094
So basically two panniers full +
David,
My experience with a Hilsen with small front rack and small front bag on it,
indicates that Riv-designed bikes are not really good handlers with front
loads. It shimmied like crazy! The other items may have contributed, but my
guess is the stuff on the front had more to do with the
Hi David,
My Canti-Rom is probably pretty close in terms of flex (8-5-8 OS, 63cm).
I've found rear rack load + any kind of front load
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclerslife/2696059023/in/album-72157606334274876/
unleashes the shimmy monster. It's been best with a big rear saddlebag and
light
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