3500 fixed gear rear for a 650CX23 Conti Grand Prix; only 1,500 fixed
rear for a 559X22 Turbo (much more in front, of course) but for me
worth it for the ride. I probably under inflate, but I realized 20
years ago that the Turbos were particularly cushy for narrow tires if
properly inflated. (I di
There are some that come close, at least. I don't know about the
Compass tires -- perhaps they fit your bill -- but the Kojak is light
(at least with Kevlar bead), supple, fast, and my new, warranteed
559X1.35 wire beads claim "Level 4 flat protection" whatever that
means.
Just got back from a ver
On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> Even some of the most racer-ish cyclists will proudly boast that their
> lightweight tires/rims/whatever are "bomb-proof" (I cringe to type that),
> until they get a flat, which sends them in search of yet another lightweight,
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 10:27 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> I haven't tried the Hetres, but one of these days I'll put together a
> 650B bike and try them. I've heard lots of good stuff, but didn't
> realize how durable they're proving to be.
For me, flat resistant, comfortable, long
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 10:24 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> I agree, Steve, if we're talking about tire "connoisseurs" (i.e. many
> people reading this group), that some are willing to use a
> no-compromise tire. Among 95% of my usual clientèle, however, a tire
> that is somewhat delic
I don't know how strong they need to be, but my impression is that Grant
prefers tires with stronger sidewalls--presumably because they are safer?
I am a fan of high performance tires for event rides. The Pari-moto tires
are fantastic. I also have Grand Bois Cypres for my 700c bike. For
"everyday"
I haven't tried the Hetres, but one of these days I'll put together a 650B
bike and try them. I've heard lots of good stuff, but didn't realize how
durable they're proving to be.
On Friday, October 19, 2012 12:19:15 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 19, 2012 9:11:23 AM UTC-7,
I agree, Steve, if we're talking about tire "connoisseurs" (i.e. many
people reading this group), that some are willing to use a no-compromise
tire. Among 95% of my usual clientèle, however, a tire that is somewhat
delicate for the sake of efficiency is a deal-breaker. No matter how nicely
a ti
On Friday, October 19, 2012 9:11:23 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> If only there were a way to make a tire that was (a) fast and supple but
> also provided (b) decent resistance to punctures from small pieces of
> glass and sharp stone and long tread life. I guess while I'm at it I
> s
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 09:33 -0700, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
> I don't know anybody who wants a puncture-prone tire, or expensive
> tires that are worn to the threads after 2000 miles. Most of us find
> that some middle ground is suitable.
>
Many are willing to accept < 2,000 miles per
As somebody who sells bike stuff to the general public, I can testify that the
notion that every bike or part or accessory choice comes with a set of
compromises is generally not easy to accept for many cyclists (especially those
who just have one bike). I'd personally take the 35 mm Marathons o
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 09:17 -0700, Toshi Takeuchi wrote:
> Does supple tire automatically mean weak sidewalls?
I'm not even sure what "weak sidewalls" means. I'm using several
different tires that are all assuredly fast and supple, including Grand
Bois Cypres, Grand Bois Hetre and Challenge Pari
I agree, Steve. Fast, supple, puncture resistant. . . that'd be delightful.
On 19 October 2012 12:11, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 08:59 -0700, Jan Heine wrote:
> > When you look at our tire first tests, the three fastest tires
> > measured 24, 25 and 38 mm wide. The slowest ti
Does supple tire automatically mean weak sidewalls?
Toshi
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> If only there were a way to make a tire that was (a) fast and supple but
> also provided (b) decent resistance to punctures from small pieces of
> glass and sharp stone and l
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 08:59 -0700, Jan Heine wrote:
> When you look at our tire first tests, the three fastest tires
> measured 24, 25 and 38 mm wide. The slowest tires were 33 mm wide. The
> correlation between width and speed/comfort applies only if you keep
> the casing the same.
>
> A good thi
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:48:03 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
> who still thinks that skinny supple tires are better than fat stiff
> ones.
>
I think that is easily overlooked. Given a choice between a 25 mm Vittoria
Open CX Corsa and a 35 mm Schwalbe Marathon, I know I'd pick the sk
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 3:23:12 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote:
>
> that's an easy fix... dump that crabby fiber fork and get a real steel
> one. Fat tire problem solved
What?! You want me to ADD weight to my bike? :) I suppose its possible, but
are there really alot of people who "dump" th
And here all this time, I've been s smug about my Ruffy Tuffys (28s)
and how I don't fall for all that idiotic "racer boy" stuff. How am I gonna
keep my self-righteous attitude if real racers are using 28s? How dare they!
Reid
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that's an easy fix... dump that crabby fiber fork and get a real steel one.
Fat tire problem solved
~mike
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:52:14 PM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:42:54 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> It does sound strange to call 25 wider, but
ing,
> Marc
>
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You think? See, I was thinking of the floor (size-wise) as something like Grand
Bois Cypres at 32, then
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:42:54 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> It does sound strange to call 25 wider, but my buddy just rebuilt his
> 27-y-o Mercian into upright, and while he can fit a 28 commuter tire on the
> rear with no worries, he's having problems with 25 a commuter tire on the
> fr
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 13:42 -0700, Ron Mc wrote:
> It does sound strange to call 25 wider...
It's all a matter of context. 25 /is/ "wider" when it come to racing
tires and racing frames. There are plenty of racing frames that don't
have room for a 25mm tire. And the extra width can have a huge
It does sound strange to call 25 wider, but my buddy just rebuilt his
27-y-o Mercian into upright, and while he can fit a 28 commuter tire on the
rear with no worries, he's having problems with 25 a commuter tire on the
front. If he gets anywhere near the recommended pressure, the bulge from
h
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8, 2012 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers
now?
H. . . I thought "wider" began at 32mm. . .
On 18 October 2012 11:49, lungimsam
mailto:john11.2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Even race frames
H. . . I thought "wider" began at 32mm. . .
On 18 October 2012 11:49, lungimsam wrote:
> Even race frames are being changed to accomodate wider tires now?!?!?!
> http://www.roadbikerider.com/ask-coach-fred
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This news is pretty amazing if you remember what the bike and tire
situation was like 10 to 15 years ago. Kudos to both of them!
Patrick "my 650c Michelin Pro Race 3 23s were on sale, and now I know
why (but they are acceptably cushy at 85/90--90/95 or so)" Moore, who
will switcth to, say, 26s to
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