Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-08-30 Thread cyclotourist
Good report! I'm VERY close to giving up on my non-sealed 700C set up. My ride was ended by goatheads today. Had to call in for support as I was close enough to home to not want to change fix two flats in the blazing hot 100F sun. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Doug Williams

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-21 Thread Tim Gavin
If you do have removable valve cores, an oral medicine syringe (like you get with cough syrup) works great as a sealant injector, and can be sourced free from your local pharmacist (if you ask nicely). I had bad luck with trying to get Pari-Motos to seal up tubeless, so now I'm trying the

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Doug Williams
True Joe, My SL-23 rims are tubeless ready. They have a tighter fit than other rims. So I don't recommend going tubeless unless your rims are made for tubeless. On Jul 20, 2015 11:26 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Proceed with caution, Shoji. I don't think synergies are tubeless

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Thanks, Joe. I'm thinking of putting Stans or Orange into the tube. I've got Schwalbe tubes, and I think they have a removable core. Shouldn't be too hard to put in some sealant. Downsides of that? Some added weight? :) shoji On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:26:07 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Joe Broach
Proceed with caution, Shoji. I don't think synergies are tubeless ready (i.e. not designed to keep a tire on without a tube). Some people have had success just putting the sealant in the tube, though. Best, joe broach pdx or Caveat lector. Sent from a phone. On Jul 20, 2015 9:39 AM, Shoji

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Doug Williams
Where I have been riding...yes, that is a record. But I will reserve final judgment until I get more more tubeless miles. Doug On Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 09:56 Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/20/2015 12:46 PM, Doug Williams wrote: The answers are yes, yes, and yes. That's all

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Doug Williams
The answers are yes, yes, and yes. That's all there is to it. Over 50 flat free miles and counting. Doug On Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 09:39 Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Doug, I'm considering tubeless set up for my Loup Loup Pass EL (650B x 38) on Velocity Synergies. I've

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/20/2015 12:46 PM, Doug Williams wrote: The answers are yes, yes, and yes. That's all there is to it. Over 50 flat free miles and counting. Is that like some kind of longevity record? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Doug Williams
I log my miles with Ride With GPS and I use the same program to log maintenance, including flats. Checking my records, I was averaging a flat every 42.75 miles. I have now gone 65.6 miles without a flat and I am riding the same thorn prone routes. If anything, I'm riding over more thorns

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Patrick Moore
IME, this depends on the pressure. Stan's in 622X28 tube at 60 psi = invincible flat protection. Stan's in 622X 50 tube at 20 psi = very vincible flat protection. Stan's in 622X 50 tubeless Furious Fred = flat free paradise. Patrick Moore, with some 3500 miles under his treads to prove his

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, and once again: you don't need removable valve cores; and you don't need injectors. Sealant works with non-removable cores (no, not through a hole in the tube) and using the 2 oz bottle. Ask me how I know. Patrick fixing flats since 1965 Moore On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Patrick Moore

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Doug Williams
Shoji, From what I have read, putting the sealant in the tube is somewhat effective in reducing flats, but it is not anywhere as good as going tubeless because the thin inner tube just won't seal as well as a thicker tire. Still worth trying, but don't expect a flat-free miracle. Doug On

Re: [RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-20 Thread Patrick Moore
For me, that would be a longevity record. (Almost.) Except when using Stan's. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/20/2015 12:46 PM, Doug Williams wrote: The answers are yes, yes, and yes. That's all there is to it. Over 50 flat free miles and