Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-07-05 Thread Matt C.
Tandem cable tension can be difficult to navigate as to what works when actually riding VS in the stand. I worked for a company that owned 6 rental tandems with trigger shifters. They weren't high quality shifters either, so tuning them perfectly always seemed somewhat of an impossibility. I fou

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-07-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/05/2016 06:18 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote: Over the long weekend we finally got out on the tandem and in the hills to test my work on the indexing. It worked well in the shop but only so so on the road. I did half the ride in index mode and half in friction and we (stoker & I) definitel

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-07-05 Thread Michael Hechmer
Over the long weekend we finally got out on the tandem and in the hills to test my work on the indexing. It worked well in the shop but only so so on the road. I did half the ride in index mode and half in friction and we (stoker & I) definitely liked the friction mode better. The indexing on

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-23 Thread Michael Hechmer
Yep, all I would need would be the extra long version of the silver shifters On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 10:30:22 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Hey Scott, > With a set of Boscos, that tandem-as-solo will fit him just fine! Long > chain stays when you need 'em (sit as pilot); short chain

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-23 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hey Scott, With a set of Boscos, that tandem-as-solo will fit him just fine! Long chain stays when you need 'em (sit as pilot); short chain stays when you need to pop wheelies (sit as stoker). happy riding, shoji On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-4, Skenry wrote: > > Ha, here is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-23 Thread Scott Henry
Ha, here is a photo of my son riding our tandem solo. But from the back seat. If you can see instgram photos... https://www.instagram.com/p/2XFCNvINiK/?taken-by=skenry&hl=en Scott On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > In fact, a month or so after I first got a tandem,

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/22/2016 06:12 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: My stoker is at a Quilt Festival for the week so I wont be able to road test it until Monday or so. Look for another post then It's perfectly possible to ride a tandem without the stoker, certainly for long enough to road test a shifter. In

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-22 Thread Michael Hechmer
Success, at least I hope so. I haven't road tested it, but it seems to be working in the shop. My suspicion had fallen on the shifter but decided to double check the housing, as Mark had suggested. I disconnected the RD and slid the cable back and forth. It moved smoothly. Then I tried the

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-22 Thread cyclotourist
I don't think it was mentioned, but check your derailer hanger alignment. Could be off a touch and wouldn't be noticed in friction mode. On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 8:21 AM, NickBull wrote: > Try turning the cable adjuster at the derailleur a couple or three clicks > clockwise (as you look down it to

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-22 Thread Jack K
Hey RBW-folk, I'm re-cockpitting my older Bilenky tandem today, going from an 8 speed bar-end shifted setup to 9 speed Shimano cassette/RD, shifted by 11 speed Campy Athena Ergo levers in a pretty classic Shimergo setup. This will be my first time doing anything with Ergopower levers, please wi

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Similar to Patrick Moore, I took some advice and splurged on super high end coated Dura Ace shift cables for my next build. Like PM I can't comment on whether or not they are better, or how much better. It will be a 10sp index setup. I'll point out that our man Michael has a tandem, though,

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Mark Reimer
I have full length housing for my Paul Klamper disc brakes and Dura Ace bar end shifters with full length housing. The included JagWire cables had too much drag in the housing to enable the Klampers to fully open no matter how I routed the housing. I put in some MEC-branded teflon cables (Canadian

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Rene may be onto something with the 9-speed bar-end and long/finicky cable routing. I had the same problem on my Bike Friday and couldn't adjust it out, either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Patrick Moore
With the full-length housing for the BB7s and the 9 sp friction shifting system on the Matthews, I splurged and bought high end Dura Ace brake and derailleur wires, upon the advice of the shop that said they do make a difference. I haven't yet installed them yet, and can't pronounce on their effica

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Michael Hechmer
The cables and housing are brand new, put on after the frame repaint in April. They have a wide loop under the front rack and I was very careful with the cut ends, so I doubt that is the problem. The RD is an Ultegra 6700, a road derailler. When we first got the bike we started with a used

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Mark Reimer
Scott, an easy work-around for that is using 10 speed road shifters and 9 speed mountain derailleurs. I'm running that on two bikes. Works 100% perfectly. One bike has 10sp Dura Ace bar ends mated to an old XTR M950 derailleur. The other to an XT M772. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Scott McLai

Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

2016-06-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/21/2016 08:48 AM, Michael Hechmer wrote: As I posted on the tandem discussion "tandems create the worst possible case for shifting. They have long cables that stretch a lot; the captain & stoker may have difficulty coordinating pedal pressure during shifting; they require a higher hi