Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-18 Thread Steven Frederick
Yeah, that covers it. Grant's been about maximizing brake clearance ever since he started Riv. The all 'rounder with canti brakes concept has always been part of it, and with each longer-reach sidepull that's been introduced, Rivendell has introduced an appropriate frame. The Heron road was

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-12 Thread James Warren
Ah, darn! I made one of those catastrophic typos. The quote below is supposed to say: NOT necessarily in awesomeness! In other words, while it lacks one functional element of the other two models, the Ram still might be the most awesome for me. On Apr 11, 2:21 pm, James Warren

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-12 Thread James Warren
, 2012 10:41 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? Jim (Cyclefiend and keeper of this list) has the a very good page on the Ram on his website http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-12 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
You can put the 73 mm Tektro brakes on a Ram, with pads at the top of the slot. Somebody said the Roadeo is much lighter, but I doubt that much lighter is more than a couple ounces (part of which is DT shifter bosses). Most Rams had what I would describe as sport-touring componentry. Put

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
So, how does the Ram compare with the Roadeo in fast pavement performance? Would someone who wants a (1) 700c, (2) light-ish, (3) derailleur Rivendell for fast-ish road riding be better off with a Roadeo or a Ram? I realize that the Ram is no longer made, so we are comparing a new Roadeo with a

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
out the Ram in tire/fender clearance. But necessarily in awesomeness. -Original Message- From: Rambouilleting Utahn glam...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 11, 2012 10:41 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
t;Sent: Apr 11, 2012 11:56 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? One thing we tend to take a little for granted these days was the comparative lack of appropriate tires, brake and such which we are currently enjoyin

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
Big-sized Roadeos have same tubing thickness as Ram. -Original Message- From: Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com>Sent: Apr 11, 2012 12:26 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? From what I recall (

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? From what I recall ( having owned a Ram) that the Ram and Hilsen were both made from the same wall thickness tubing ( 8-5-8). The Roadeo has thinner tubing from what I read

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
In the largest size (size region where the OP is interested), the Ram and Roadeo are pretty similar: Same angles in seat and head tube, same toptube, 1 cm different in chainstay, 4 mm different in BB drop, not sure of the trail, but I'll be they are similar. -Original Message- From:

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Do you have those spec from the Ram handy? Not that it matters. I rode it, loved it. - Ryan On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:48:10 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: In the largest size (size region where the OP is interested), the Ram and Roadeo are pretty similar: Same angles in seat and

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Bruce Herbitter
on it. Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com Sent: Wed Apr 11 17:25:04 CDT 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? I think Grant always

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread James Warren
- From: Ryan Ray <ryanr...@gmail.com>Sent: Apr 11, 2012 4:02 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? Somehow we've completely missed a big difference between the Hilsen and the Ram. (attached photo) On Wednesday, Ap

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread Ryan Ray
Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? Somehow we've completely missed a big difference between the Hilsen and the Ram. (attached photo) On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote: I thought the Rodeo was a direct

Re: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?

2012-04-11 Thread William
, 2012 4:02 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs? Somehow we've completely missed a big difference between the Hilsen and the Ram. (attached photo) On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, Ryan