[RDA-L] Relator terms in author/title added entries?

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Will we be including relator codes or terms in author/title added entries, e.g., 700 12 $aJones, Jim.$4aut$tPaper title. or 00 12 $aJones, Jim,$eauthor$tPaper title. Why or why not? __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP:/

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman said: >It's not really in interview format; the narrative flows as if Mr. >Young had had no assistance at all. It just doesn't feel like >interviews. True. I was joking a bit, although I suspect questions were asked, suggestions were made, and narrative was edited by the "int

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun posted: >The creators are given as: >Victoria and Albert Museum >Peabody Essex Museum > >Now, I don't have a problem with the fact that the museums are seen as >creators. But I don't understand why there is no third creator, namely >the personal author Amin Jaffer. Shouldn't this also be

Re: [RDA-L] Periods in the Title

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Monica Boyer posted: >So you want the >Perfect dog. >Start Here. We would code as: 245 10 $aSo you want the perfect dog. :$bstart here /$c ... . We would omit the period since in ISBD punctuation, the period makes "Start here" appear to be a part of the larger work. Most ISBD punctuation, used

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Deborah Lee posted: >I am struggling to think of the appropriate relationship designator to desc= >ribe the relationship that the conference has to the book "based on" that c= >onference. The RDA terms are richer for individuals than for bodies. If the conference published the book, "issuing b

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread Glenna Walker
Maybe "facilator"? On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Michael Borries < michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> wrote: > Maybe “emanator”? > > ** ** > > Michael S. Borries > > Cataloger, City University of New York > > 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor > > New York, NY 10010 > > Phone: (

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread Michael Borries
Maybe "emanator"? Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA]

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Daniel, great, thanks! Somehow I never think to look in chapter six. The first exception in 6.27.1.3 is indeed just what I needed. So, I can now safely assume that the personal authors of such museum catalogs could and should be seen as creators alongside the museum(s). Thanks also for the a

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread Joan Wang
Forget to say, your case may not be the thing I am talking about. Have to look at the item. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > Heidrun > > I think that the rule applies to other cases such as publications from a > committee or

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread Joan Wang
Heidrun I think that the rule applies to other cases such as publications from a committee or a church. It is usual to see publications that have committee names as well as members. The example shown under the rule is about a music group. But I feel that the rule itself does not indicate such a li

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
AS Bob Maxwell just stated, per RDA (and AACR2, of course) if you are cataloging the proceedings of a named conference, the conference itself gets a "creator"-type access point (aka "Main Entry"). So the relationship "author" would technically work. However I hope that some day they come up wi

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread Greta de Groat
Early on in the RDA process we consulted with the Library of Congress on this issue and determined that there is no appropriate relationship designation to describe the relationship between a conference and its proceedings. "Host institution" and "Sponsoring body" are in the list but are usuall

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Maxwell
A meeting or event is a type of corporate body according to both AACR2 and RDA. If the publication is the proceedings of the meeting/event the conference is considered the creator. I've been using "author" as the relationship designator in those cases. Corporate bodies (including events) can hav

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Joan, Thanks for your ideas. Are these people are members of the corporate body? If they are, there is an optional omission in RDA. /If the members of a group, ensemble, company, etc., are named as well as the name of the group, etc., omit the names of the members from the statement of resp

[RDA-L] Periods in the Title

2013-05-03 Thread Monica Boyer
I have had very little, very basic RDA experience so please forgive me if this is a very simple question & answer. This morning, I cataloged a book that seems to be from CreateSpace & which was written by a local author. The title information on the title page looked like this (ignoring any capit

[RDA-L] Relationship designator for a conference

2013-05-03 Thread Lee, Deborah
Hello, I am struggling to think of the appropriate relationship designator to describe the relationship that the conference has to the book "based on" that conference. I wondered if anyone had any ideas? (I have considered "issuing body", as this is what we have used for works which have eman

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread Paradis Daniel
Hi Heidrun, The relevant instruction is 6.27.1.3. The first exception "Corporate bodies as creators" addresses cases where "one or more corporate bodies and one or more persons or families are collaboratively responsible for creating a work that falls into one or more of the categories at 19.2.

Re: [RDA-L] Creators of museum catalogs

2013-05-03 Thread Joan Wang
Are these people are members of the corporate body? If they are, there is an optional omission in RDA. *If the members of a group, ensemble, company, etc., are named as well as the name of the group, etc., omit the names of the members from the statement of responsibility. * I also find this in t

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-03 Thread Nancy Braman
To all who responded, thank you very much. (And no, I'm not quoting the whole digest at the end.) Bernadette and Heidrun: I'll probably go with author. An author's note explains that Mr. Young had made two previous attempts on his own, but they were unsatisfactory. His editor then suggested bri