Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-06 Thread Mac Lewis
mower or tiller and have it start >> with no major headaches after a year layover! >> >> >> >> Just from my testing and experience, >> >> >> >> Bob Ellison >> >> >> >> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-06 Thread Mac Lewis
enches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On > Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:21 PM > *To:* 'RE-wrenches' > > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? > > > > For off grid systems with back up charging powered

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Bob Ellison
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:21 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? For off grid systems with back up charging powered by diesel, what is the best fuel

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Chris Mason
That 9KW Aurora generator is almost exactly the same unit I provided to a customer of mine here, built in China to my specs. The customer is using is as a sole power source for a restaurant, running it at about 100% to 110% load 18 hours a day for two years now without issue. The Perkins engine is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Dave
: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? This is the major disadvantage of diesel over propane. Diesel can be corrupted with bacteria, water through condensation and algae. Fuel polishing is the process to clean the diesel and remove the contaminants, the equipment is expensive so it is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Aurora generators can be used in all off grid applications with full warranty. http://www.auroragenerators.com/generators Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On May 5, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Luke Christy wrote: Hi Wrenches, I have been following this thread with interest ever since Lena s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Chris Mason
I haven't heard anyone discuss Generac's diesel Protector series. Has anyone tried them? We have a couple of customers with them, they are happy. On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Chris Mason wrote: > This is the major disadvantage of diesel over propane. > Diesel can be corrupted with bacteria,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Chris Mason
This is the major disadvantage of diesel over propane. Diesel can be corrupted with bacteria, water through condensation and algae. Fuel polishing is the process to clean the diesel and remove the contaminants, the equipment is expensive so it is normally done as a service. If the fuel goes bad, it

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Dana
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Luke Christy Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 9:11 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? Hi Wrenches, I have been following this thread with interest ever since Lena started it a few days ago. I don'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Michael Morningstar
I've been using Cummins RS 22's, where a propane fuel source is dictated (my preference is diesel). They are 20kw, liquid cooled, 1800rpm, and available without enclosures and cost a little less than 10K. A little bit larger than what we are talking about, and usually oversized for a lot of my a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Luke Christy
Hi Wrenches, I have been following this thread with interest ever since Lena started it a few days ago. I don't have a whole lot to add but I thought I would chime in. I struggle with the same issues I've heard from others on the list of needing good quality, smaller (8-15kW) generator options

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread jay
Question to all the generator techs out there. I’ve always been told that you don’t want a diesel to be sitting for long periods. Fuel can go bad, all that sort of thing. Vs propane which doesn’t care. Is that true? Or in mild climates will a monthly must run be OK? Thanks jay > On May 5,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Mac Lewis
Chris, Yes, this is a good point. The QT series from Generac is a great machine and pricing is better than any other machine in that size that I've seen. Is there an off-grid warranty on the QT series? On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Chris Mason wrote: > What about the Generac QT commercial un

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Chris Mason
What about the Generac QT commercial units. Liquid cooled, enclosed, sold engines, inexpensive. For diesel, the Generac protector series meets your requirements. For mobile, generac acquired Magnum, they have some beautiful models. On May 4, 2016 20:27, "jay" wrote: Hi Allan, I was at our new Ko

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Wrenches, I do like that the Gillette generator starter battery can be effectively charged with a 20W solar panel. That's is a big bonus. There are a couple of problems though. We have seen a disproportionate failure of the rotor/stator assembly on these, much higher than Kohler, Generac and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-05 Thread Tump
FYI the; Onan "Command Mobil" IS available wired in either straight 120 OR 120/240, this is the 7k derated to 6.5 when using propane. It is small but does offer a good reliable choice. It does require a stand and I will use a 90* cold air duct to move the exhaust air away from the intake. That

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-04 Thread jay
Hi Allan, I was at our new Kohler dealer today. They had a trailer mounted, propane water cooled 25kw with fuel storage and sound enclosure, really nice machine, but it was $29,000 Its kind of weird that there isn’t anything in the lower sizes that is water cooled, good quality, in propane

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-05-04 Thread Allan Sindelar
Lena and all, I was watching this thread closely, as I have shared your concerns and I was hoping to hear of any new solutions. In this thread I hear of Gillette (always positively over the years that this question has come up), one 5.5kW Onan RV set (120V only and too sm

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Generator

2016-04-29 Thread Travis Jordan
I have found the local Cummins rep to be very happy to set us up as a dealer for their generators. We buy through Cummins Northwest in either Missoula MT or Spokane WA. Last time I bought one I thought it was a bit over $4k if you hit me up off-line I will forward you my sales reps name and inf

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-29 Thread Dana
printing this email. From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of RE Ellison Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 8:00 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? Check out the hardy Diesel15 kW Perkins It's available and i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-29 Thread RE Ellison
nsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" > P Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On > Behalf Of Ray Walters > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:15 PM >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-29 Thread Dana
enches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? I haven't seen anything from them that looks like what we're after We'd be looking for 10kW to 15 kW water cooled 1800 rpm. Propane fired. Everyone makes models in the 30kW + range that fit the bill, but most off grid sys

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Roy Rakobitsch
oroff grid > Jerry > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > > Original message > From: Ray Walters > Date:04/28/2016 7:28 AM (GMT-10:00) > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Dana Solar work
t; > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > > Original message > From: Ray Walters > Date:04/28/2016 7:28 AM (GMT-10:00) > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? > > FYI, generally we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread RE Ellison
10:00) > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? > > FYI, generally we haven't had cold start issues with propane units, as long > as the pipe is sized properly ( as mentioned in another recent post) and the > starter battery is kept fully ch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Ray Walters
ttery charging needs to be added foroff grid Jerry Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Ray Walters Date:04/28/2016 7:28 AM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? FYI, generally w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread jerrysgarage01
To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? FYI, generally we haven't had cold start issues with propane units, as long as the pipe is sized properly ( as mentioned in another recent post) and the starter battery is kept fully charged. This is based on about

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Dana
eople since 1988" P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Lena Wilensky Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:19 AM To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Ray Walters
FYI, generally we haven't had cold start issues with propane units, as long as the pipe is sized properly ( as mentioned in another recent post) and the starter battery is kept fully charged. This is based on about 20 years experience in the Rockies with temps below 0, but not 40 below. We don

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Jeremy Rodriguez
Check out Gillette generators. Made in Indiana 12.5 kW w Subaru Jeremy Rodriguez Solar Installation And Design Expert All Solar, Inc. 1463 M St Penrose Colorado 81240 Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! On Apr 28, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Lena Wilensky mailto:l...@nunatakenergy.co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Kevin Pegg
ls for off-grid. Engine will cost 2x to buy but 1/2 to run. Kevin From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Lena Wilensky Sent: April-28-16 9:19 AM To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update? I did some searc

[RE-wrenches] Off-grid generator update?

2016-04-28 Thread Lena Wilensky
I did some searches on the list for what folks are doing for off-grid propane generators these days, but all the threads I found were from 5-6 yrs ago, so I was hoping to get some more current info. We're looking for about a 10kw+ propane unit (big derate at altitude), and we run into 2 main probl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid generator

2011-01-25 Thread Dana
1988" Do not ever believe anything, but seriously trust through action. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Randy Brooks Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:04 AM To: Wrenches RE Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off

[RE-wrenches] Off grid generator

2011-01-25 Thread Randy Brooks
Wrenches, Thanks for the responses, on and off list, to my earlier question about what off grid generator you recommend. The Cummins Onan 20 kW GGMA (LP, 1,800 rpm, liquid cooled) we're considering also has an optional coolant heater (120vAC, 1,500 watt) that the manual recommends be used any