[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-04 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
> how about: > help probe ->> > "Prints a molded, unevaluated value and returns the same > value. similar: ? ?? > dump" YESS A "RELATED:" or "SEE ALSO:" WOULD BE SO USEFULL IN ALL RT Function defs. AND A CLASSIFICATION ID TOO ... like in the ref-words doc where there the words are split

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-04 Thread Andreas Bolka
Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 4:48:10 AM, Volker wrote: > Now instead of "send" i could not resist to press "hack", and here > is: thanks for sharing! i found it exciting that this piece of code uses loads of typical REBOL idioms - i.e. it can be considered a piece of REBOL wizardry :) > ;the code >

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Volker Nitsch
On Montag, 3. Mai 2004 23:23, Gregg Irwin wrote: > Hi Anton, Andreas, et al > > Any other candidate host functions that map to this functionality? > > GI> What about a refinement on PROBE that makes it produce DUMPed > GI> output? > probe/dump - longer to type. when i debug i want it short. even

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Anton, Andreas, et al AR> I'd like probe to remain the simple function AR> that it is. Something beautiful about it. I agree that simple is beautiful; if we can simplify all the code that uses this functionality, even at the expense of a little added complexity inside, that's a gain IMO. Of c

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Anton Rolls
Gregg, I'd like probe to remain the simple function that it is. Something beautiful about it. (I think, because there is nowhere for bugs to hide in there..:) Anton. > Hi Anton, > > AR> Please consider that molded code should be able to be > AR> loaded back by rebol. So I say no. > AR> I have n

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Anton Rolls
I was thinking the dump-bin output could be made loadable again, therefore achieving orthogonality: what can be molded can also be loaded. The output could be changed like so: dump-bin to-binary "abc" make binary! #{6162 63} ; : abc dump-bin to-binary "all the king's horses and all the kin

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Andreas Bolka
Monday, May 3, 2004, 11:54:45 AM, Gregg wrote: > This is interesting. I've always thought of PROBE as "show me the > value" where the inlining aspect was the big benefit, but that it > didn't add as much as it could for certain types of values (e.g. > binary! and bitset!). that's interesting in

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Max, MOA> especially since we often insert a probe within a line to get MOA> status at that moment, like just before an assignment... dump-bin MOA> would break that behaviour. It shouldn't, unless I'm missing something. What it displays and what it returns are two different things. MOA> that

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
> Are you saying that because that's how PROBE currently works > (i.e. the molded result is exactly what is displayed)? We wouldn't > be affecting molded code in general, only what PROBE prints out. The > value given to PROBE would be returned just as it is today. that would make probe a little o

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-03 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch
:-) -MAx - Original Message - From: "Romano Paolo Tenca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:50 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey > > Hi, > > > Please consider that molded code should be able to be

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-02 Thread Gregg Irwin
Hi Anton, AR> Please consider that molded code should be able to be AR> loaded back by rebol. So I say no. AR> I have no real objection to including dump-bin named as is AR> though. Are you saying that because that's how PROBE currently works (i.e. the molded result is exactly what is displayed)

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-02 Thread Romano Paolo Tenca
Hi, > Please consider that molded code should be able to be > loaded back by rebol. So I say no. I agree. Could be an help service. --- Ciao Romano -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.

[REBOL] Re: probe/dump-binary survey

2004-05-02 Thread Anton Rolls
Please consider that molded code should be able to be loaded back by rebol. So I say no. I have no real objection to including dump-bin named as is though. Anton. > Jaime et al > > JV> Greg, I think your suggestion that probe should produce output > JV> similar to dump-bin by default is great.