Graham
says: If you don't know enough,
then do us the courtesy of doing some research and finding out.
Karen
says:
Excuse
me but you were the one to bring up this subject in the first place. I never
once mentioned this topic. You mention it last night and when I reply with an
honest
In other words I will never forget what happened to me but the greatest
revenge I can have to the person in question is to live my life to the
fullest. Letting them know they did not destroy me!!
Hmm, sweet revenge!
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Hi Karen,
Once again, that's hardly reconciliation. Reconciliation is about doing our
best to right the wrongs, not about perpetuating the "us them". I'm sure
someone else on this list will put it much more elegantly than I, but surely
you can't think revenge should be considered the essence
The differencewith your examples is
that you are saying it to someone you know and love.
Saying sorry to a race is entirely different
- you say it to agroup of people you could never know
personally.
The office of PM demands that he
represent all Australians. The problem with John Howard
Trudy, this is the maximum than could be expected of the Office of the High
Commissioner for Human Rights under her mandate. They can't do on Australia
what they couldn't also do on any other UN member state.
For a case like this, other UN bodies have the necessary authority to level
direct
I was simply replying to your interpretation of my own personal experience.
I'm not talking about revenge on a national scale as each situation is
different. I was simply implying that by moving on my life is better. I have
no need to forgive this person and I certainly would not reconcile.
It's
because I can - just like you! Remember that Freedom of Speech thingy!?!?
All I simply said was that I did not wish to comment on something I did not
know as much about as I would like to.
So I get shot down for having an opinion and then I get shot down because I
don't have an informed enough
TIM SAYS:I can't believe he has the
nerve to come out of a meeting and say, once again, that he's committed to
reconciliation. It's only a week ago on 3AW that he
said:"Whatbaffles me about this (reconciliation) issue is that I'm
expected torepudiate my own personal beliefs; I'm told that
Exactly!!! And if we extrapolate a bit with that logic, would it be
reasonable to assume that it is one's duty to be compassionate to those one
knows and loves? Howard's refusal to apologise indicates that he doesn't
know Australia's Aboriginal population, and he doesn't love them!
Even
Karen,
As I remember it you made clear statements that there was
no racism in the laws of this land. You made statements that the police
are not racist. You made other statements that a little research would
have proven are quite the opposite of your statements.
Now you are saying that you
KAREN SAYS: In refernce to the above first para - to
which you were talking about - he does not actually say that Tim. So you are
interpreting it the way you want. He never actually got quoted as saying he
doesn't believe in reconciliation.
Hi again Karen - you're right about
Karen,
You seem to have missed the point I was making. Whether or not it is
a person you know or a group of people you don't is not what is relevant,
but rather that 'sorry' is not an admission of guilt but an understanding
of and empathy with suffering and grief.
And if non-Aboriginal
Hello
can someone tell me if it is possible to receive all mail from a list except one
sender.
I admire anyone who attempts to answer this sort of time consuming comment but when I
get email sent from
one person (and there seem to be more than 6 in one day), whose views and attitudes I
am
From what I have seen Marise Payne, a NSW Liberal
Senator, a member of the Senate Committee, seems to have stuck her neck out
against Mandatory Sentencing in the NT.
Given that the only hope of legislation on this
getting through both houses of parliament lies with either Liberal or
I am forwarding Graham Young's message which bounced because it was too
long. Please, everyone remember to remove the older parts of messages
that are not needed for clarity.
Trudy
**
Karen,
I am sorry that you feel that I was attacking you. That wasn't my =
The Sydney Morning Herald
Editorial: Punishment on principle
Date: 14/03/2000
THE division within the Senate committee on mandatory sentencing is a
measure of how easily side issues can contaminate a question of
principle. The minority report by the two Liberal senators, Helen Coonan
and Marise
Local community
doesn't accept Maralinga is safe
The Maralinga Aboriginal
community has disputed claims by the Federal Government about the safety of the
former nuclear test site.The Industry Minister, Nick Michin, has
declared the site safe, after the clean-up was completed two-weeks
Hi everyone,
I have asked this before but people just seem to forget or not care -
would you please not post in HTML to Recoznet2?
Some people's email systems can't handle it and for ease of
discussion, it is impossible to cut into to address specific points.
There is no need for HTML unless
Dear All,
A note on the ABC story, and lobbying Liberal
MP's.
When dealing with the Liberal Party you should
always bear in mind that its members effectively have the right to a conscience
vote on every matter, even if they seldom see the need to exercise that
right.
In the Labor Party a
Graham,
Here is an expanded list from one of this morning's articles:
"Moderate number cruncher Mr Christopher Pyne confirmed in a statement
that moderates would not support the Senate legislation.
Mr Pyne did not return calls yesterday, nor did other Liberal
dissidents. They include NSW
Fwd:
Issued today to Australian media from the International Secretariat of
Amnesty International:
News Service 048/00
AI INDEX: ASA 12/03/00
14 March 2000
Crunch time for children's human rights in Australia
As Australia's Senators debate mandatory
Report reveals physical abuse of young detainees in NSW
centre
Source: AAP | Published: Tuesday March 14, 2:20 PM
A damning report into the causes of four riots at a NSW juvenile
detention centre last year has revealed a culture of
physical and verbal abuse of detainees by staff.
The report
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