Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Caleb Groom
Does anybody know of a major laptop manufactorer that will sell a system with Red Hat or any other linux distribution pre-installed? If not Linux, perhaps without an OS? I'm pricing laptops but I know that some of the cost is OS related. Having a MS XP license isn't something that will be of

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Andy
On Sunday 09 February 2003 23:15, Caleb Groom wrote: Does anybody know of a major laptop manufactorer that will sell a system with Red Hat or any other linux distribution pre-installed? If not Linux, perhaps without an OS? I'm pricing laptops but I know that some of the cost is OS related.

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 19:19, Andy wrote: On Sunday 09 February 2003 23:15, Caleb Groom wrote: Does anybody know of a major laptop manufactorer that will sell a system with Red Hat or any other linux distribution pre-installed? If not Linux, perhaps without an OS? I'm pricing laptops

RE: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Vitali Djatsuk
MicroLink from Estonia will be the best ! -Original Message- From: Caleb Groom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows Does anybody know of a major laptop

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On 10 Feb 2003, Stephen Kuhn wrote: IBM would be the best bet. sadly, for all the hype coming out of IBM these days about how they're firmly behind linux and are investing bazillions of dollars in it, it appears that you still can't buy a thinkpad that doesn't have windows pre-loaded on it.

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Michael Scottaline
on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows Does anybody know of a major laptop manufactorer that will sell a system with Red Hat or any other linux distribution pre-installed? If not Linux, perhaps without an OS? I'm pricing laptops but I know that some of the cost is OS related. Having a MS XP

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Andy
IBM would be the best bet. sadly, for all the hype coming out of IBM these days about how they're firmly behind linux and are investing bazillions of dollars in it, it appears that you still can't buy a thinkpad that doesn't have windows pre-loaded on it. i'll finally start taking IBM

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread John Nichel
The mother of a good friend of mine is a VP for IBM (in sales), and according to his mother, IBM is still bound by M$ contract to do this. Andy wrote: IBM would be the best bet. sadly, for all the hype coming out of IBM these days about how they're firmly behind linux and are investing

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Andy
On Monday 10 February 2003 08:23, John Nichel wrote: The mother of a good friend of mine is a VP for IBM (in sales), and according to his mother, IBM is still bound by M$ contract to do this. That is what I thought. Can you have your friend find out how log this contractual obligation will be

RE: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Dan Jallits
this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows On Monday 10 February 2003 08:23, John Nichel wrote: The mother

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread hkcc1976
laptop, without paying for Windows Re: IBM would be the best bet. Re: Re: sadly, for all the hype coming out of IBM these days about Re: how they're firmly behind linux and are investing bazillions Re: of dollars in it, it appears that you still can't buy a thinkpad Re: that doesn't have

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Tass
, so, could be. :-) ht )- Original Message - )From: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] )Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:15:19 -0900 )To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] )Subject: Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows ) )Re: IBM would be the best bet. )Re: )Re: sadly, for all the hype

Re: Getting Linux on a retail laptop, without paying for Windows

2003-02-10 Thread Andy
On Monday 10 February 2003 19:46, Tass wrote: What I've heard on this matter is that the M$ contract states only that builders can no longer sell empty chassis. There must be AN OS with the computer. This was to counter the practice of quantity purchasers buying blank boxes, (and by M$'s