Re: athlon xp vs. athlon mp (ot...kinda)

2003-02-28 Thread Benjamin R. Mohilef
> so now down to the question. whats the difference between a dual > athlon xp system and a dual athlon mp system besides a >huge< price > difference? the dual mp motherboards are twice as expensive...as are > the athlon mp processors. The mp has been configured by AMD to run in a multiprocessin

RE: athlon xp vs. athlon mp (ot...kinda)

2003-02-28 Thread Randy Williams
Greetings, The XP and MP lines are drastically different architectures, although they use the same core. The MP in Athlon MP means Multi-processing and it is a server chip from start to finish, hence its higher price tag. If you aren't doing any server specific things that require SMP processing

Re: athlon xp vs. athlon mp (ot...kinda)

2003-02-28 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 15:28, christopher j bottaro wrote: > i decided that i want a dual cpu system. i'm kinda interested in > parallel/distributed programming. my friends have donated their old > computers and i now have a 5 node linux cluster (just old cheap 500 mhz > p3's). Where do I get

Re: Athlon kernel Vs. Normal Kernel ??

2002-04-29 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Darryl Harvey wrote: > If I have an Athlon CPU, what advantages do I get from running the > Athlon kernel ?? Is it more stable? Faster? Optimised?? Ummm...more lockups, random segfaults, and probably data corruption. Compile with K6 optimizations until the kernel folks sor

Re: Athlon kernel Vs. Normal Kernel ??

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Fratoni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 29 April 2002 10:21 pm, Darryl Harvey wrote: > If I have an Athlon CPU, what advantages do I get from running the > Athlon kernel ?? Is it more stable? Faster? Optimised?? The Athlon kernel is optimized for the Athlon CPU. If your main boa

RE: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Burke, Thomas G.
: Re: Athlon -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 11-01-02 at 14:34 * Mike Burger said > You should be able to..in fact, you should be able to install i586 RPMs on > an Athlon system. The trick comes if you try to install i686 binaries. I thought Athlon'

Performance Gain (Was RE: Athlon)

2002-01-11 Thread Jeff Graves
--Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Burger Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Athlon Well, if you're not planning on changing processors, you can probably go to the Athlon binaries and be happy

Re: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Burger
Well, if you're not planning on changing processors, you can probably go to the Athlon binaries and be happy. If you think there's a chance that you might have to change hardware, you might want to stick with the i386/586 binaries for compatibility's sake. On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Cedric MARSOT wr

Re: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Burger
Some of the Not to my knowledge. They *may* be 686 compatible, but i686 processors are actually Pentium Pro, Pentium 2, Pentium III and Pentium IV. There have been a number of issues with people trying to run i686 binaries on Athlon processors. On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson wrote: >

Re: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Cedric MARSOT
Hi, With an Athlon XP, Redhat installation , installed i686 binaries. Is it better to change kernel and binaries to Athlon or i586/386 ? -- Cedric Quoting Mike Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You should be able to..in fact, you should be able to install i586 RPMs > on > an Athlon system. The t

Re: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Nick Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * On 11-01-02 at 14:34 * Mike Burger said > You should be able to..in fact, you should be able to install i586 RPMs on > an Athlon system. The trick comes if you try to install i686 binaries. I thought Athlon's were 686? - -- Nick Wilson

Re: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Burger
You should be able to..in fact, you should be able to install i586 RPMs on an Athlon system. The trick comes if you try to install i686 binaries. On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Gordon Stewart wrote: > Dear List > > Can you install i386 RPMs on an Athlon system? > > Gordon > > > > > __

Re: Athlon

2002-01-11 Thread Tom Brown
erm yes in a word... thanks - Original Message - From: "Gordon Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Athlon > Dear List > > Can you install i386 RPMs on an Athlon system? > > Gordon > > > > > __

Re: Athlon Thunderbird & RH6.2

2000-11-27 Thread Leonard den Ottolander
Hi Bill and Stu, > Just clarifying, what kernel did you select for the installation? I am not sure you can choose this, but by default the i686 kernel will be installed. So an easy fix could be to install the i586 kernel (boot from CD, mount the filesystem containing /boot, in

Re: Athlon Thunderbird & RH6.2

2000-11-27 Thread Bill Carlson
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Stu Owen wrote: > For those that are interested, I found the solution by using the > parameter 'x86_serial_nr=1' at the lilo prompt. I can then atleast get > into the system and rebuild the kernel to remove the problem. > > Stu Owen wrote: > > > I am trying to install RedHat

Re: Athlon Thunderbird & RH6.2

2000-11-27 Thread Stu Owen
For those that are interested, I found the solution by using the parameter 'x86_serial_nr=1' at the lilo prompt. I can then atleast get into the system and rebuild the kernel to remove the problem. Stu Owen wrote: > I am trying to install RedHat 6.2 on a machine running an Athlon > Thunderbird 8

Re: athlon socket a

2000-08-16 Thread kf
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Hidong Kim wrote: = Hi, = = Is anyone here using the socket A athlon with Linux? I'm thinking about = getting one. Thanks, = = Yeah, I'm using it, an Athlon 650MHz on a Microstar MS-6195 (no sound). Shop for parts carefully. See for det

RE: athlon socket a

2000-08-16 Thread Jeff Graves
I understand that in the future, all Athlon processors (not just the Duron) will be socket A based. Yes. All future AMD processors are going to be socket A. (thunderbird, hammer, etc.) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.

RE: athlon socket a

2000-08-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Anthony Lawson wrote: > Socket A is AMD's counterpart to the Intel Socket 370. The AMD DURON > (Socket A) will replace the K6-II (Socket 7). I understand that in the future, all Athlon processors (not just the Duron) will be socket A based. It was explained to me thusly: U

RE: athlon socket a

2000-08-16 Thread Anthony Lawson
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Re: athlon socket a

2000-08-16 Thread Doug Piper
OK so far. Hidong Kim wrote: > > Hi, > > Is anyone here using the socket A athlon with Linux? I'm thinking about > getting one. Thanks, > > Hidong > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: athlon socket a

2000-08-16 Thread Bill Carlson
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > Is anyone here using the socket A athlon with Linux? I'm thinking about > getting one. Thanks, > I have an Athlon machine, runs well. It's slot A though, 800 MHz. Bill Carlson Systems Programmer[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Opinion

Re: athlon socket a

2000-08-15 Thread Statux
socket A? On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Hidong Kim wrote: > Hi, > > Is anyone here using the socket A athlon with Linux? I'm thinking about > getting one. Thanks, > > > > Hidong > > > > ___ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listm

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-30 Thread Michael A. Johnson
EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re: Athlon processor > > > %-> There is a patch to fix the problem with Windows 95 OSR 2.xx series. It > %-> can be found from the AMD web site (http://www.amd.com). Most of the > %-> time you can get 95 stable enough to run it...the tr

RE: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-29 Thread Juha Saarinen
%-> There is a patch to fix the problem with Windows 95 OSR 2.xx series. It %-> can be found from the AMD web site (http://www.amd.com). Most of the %-> time you can get 95 stable enough to run it...the trick is to actually %-> get it to go into safe mode. Easiest way to do that is to actually %->

Re: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-29 Thread lloy0076
There is a patch to fix the problem with Windows 95 OSR 2.xx series. It can be found from the AMD web site (http://www.amd.com). Most of the time you can get 95 stable enough to run it...the trick is to actually get it to go into safe mode. Easiest way to do that is to actually switch the power o

Re: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-26 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 07:52:33AM -0700, Johnnio wrote: > Hi David, > > U [unfortunately] have to build up a Win95[OS2R] computer > for my daughter one of these days and I know it is 'a bit' off topic > but > what did you mean by 'the Win95SR2.0 & AMD-K6 disasters"? > > I probably will use

Re: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000 at 09:17:39PM +1030, lloy0076 wrote: > > Zoki! > > > problems etc. Intel CPU's have been experiencing. What's the reason for > > people being so afraid when it's not an Intel CPU? > > I honestly think the reason is that Microsoft bases its (in)operating > systems on the Int

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread jack wallen jr
i got one of the Altura machines from buypogo.com and it is running supurbly. yous said: On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, lloy0076 wrote: ->I have an Athlon on an MSI-6167 board, I740 Video Excel AGP card, stock ->standard IDE hard drives and two CD (one ROM, other RW/RECORD). I have ->had absolutely no

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread Zoki
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, lloy0076 wrote: ->I have an Athlon on an MSI-6167 board, I740 Video Excel AGP card, stock ->standard IDE hard drives and two CD (one ROM, other RW/RECORD). I have ->had absolutely no problems, in fact I simply clicked in my hard drive ->and Linux booted without a glitch...Win

Re: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread Julian Thomas
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/25/00 at 07:52 AM, Johnnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed: > 'the Win95SR2.0 & AMD-K6 disasters"? There's a timing problem where W95 OSR2 fails if the K6 is faster than 333. You can find more about this on either the AMD or the MS web sites. >I probably will use a

Re: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread Johnnio
Hi David, U [unfortunately] have to build up a Win95[OS2R] computer for my daughter one of these days and I know it is 'a bit' off topic but what did you mean by 'the Win95SR2.0 & AMD-K6 disasters"? I probably will use an AMD K6 processor in the box. Will it be a bad combination with Win

Re: Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread lloy0076
Zoki! > problems etc. Intel CPU's have been experiencing. What's the reason for > people being so afraid when it's not an Intel CPU? I honestly think the reason is that Microsoft bases its (in)operating systems on the Intel chips and have been known to do dumb things in the past like base I/O t

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-25 Thread lloy0076
I have an Athlon on an MSI-6167 board, I740 Video Excel AGP card, stock standard IDE hard drives and two CD (one ROM, other RW/RECORD). I have had absolutely no problems, in fact I simply clicked in my hard drive and Linux booted without a glitch...Windows on the other hand required four reinstal

Re: Athlon processor-THANKS!

2000-01-21 Thread Carey F. Cox
Thanks to all those who responded. Sounds like that is one hot little chip. I may have to investigate getting one for myself. Thanks again. Carey == <> Carey F. Cox, PhD | PHONE: (409) 880-8770 <>

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Zoki
On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Carey F. Cox wrote: -> ->I remember reading some posts recently about the Athlon processor. I didn't ->pay attention to those at the time, but now I have someone asking about ->putting Linux on one of those chips. How compatible are these chips ->with RH6.0 or greater? Wha

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread J. Scott Kasten
It's not really processor specific, but specific to the IDE chip sets you're using. However, a board for an advanced processor like the athelon is going to have an advanced IDE chip set as well. I think your best bet is the deja archives in both cases. On Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 05:32:35PM -0500,

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Charles Galpin
sorry, I should have mentioned that linux only saw 64MB of RAM, so I had to tell it about the other 192MB :) So yes, the MB has an issue there, but no others that I have noticed. On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Alan Mead wrote: > I'm in a similar situation (except no Athalon on the horizon)... IIRC, The

RE: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Jeff Graves
ch [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Athlon processor The biggest problem I have had with the Athlon Proc is envy. Yes, pure, green, envy. I built one around an ASUS K7M board... and I want it. bad. 128 megs r

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Alan Mead
I'm in a similar situation (except no Athalon on the horizon)... IIRC, The HCL at Red Hat's web site claims that some Athalon MB's are partially incompatible with Linux but the chip itself is no problem. At 03:10 PM 1/20/00 -0600, Carey F. Cox wrote: > >I remember reading some posts recently abo

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Jason Hirsch
The biggest problem I have had with the Athlon Proc is envy. Yes, pure, green, envy. I built one around an ASUS K7M board... and I want it. bad. 128 megs ram, 32meg video just watching it do a memory test in less than 1/2 second gives me shivers. Bye bye pentiums... I'm going Athlon from

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Michael George
On Jan 20, J. Scott Kasten wrote: > For the most part, it's just an x86. However, you should run I think it's > 2.2.12 minimum, maybe it's 2.2.13, but around that anyway. Devel kernels > from 2.3.30 on should be ok to. There's just a little funky stuff to get > the chip to really sing that's in

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread J. Scott Kasten
For the most part, it's just an x86. However, you should run I think it's 2.2.12 minimum, maybe it's 2.2.13, but around that anyway. Devel kernels from 2.3.30 on should be ok to. There's just a little funky stuff to get the chip to really sing that's in those kernels. You should go to deja and

Re: Athlon processor

2000-01-20 Thread Tom Gilbert
* Carey F. Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I remember reading some posts recently about the Athlon processor. I didn't > pay attention to those at the time, but now I have someone asking about > putting Linux on one of those chips. How compatible are these chips > with RH6.0 or greater? 10

RE ATHLON and Re: [ANNOUNCE] i686 only Redhat Distribution - PRE-BETA RPMS Avail.

2000-01-11 Thread Allen Bolderoff
I will not be answering this question again. it *should* work with Athlon, but not K6 Allen - Original Message - From: "David C Niemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Allen Bolderoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] i686 only Redhat Distribu