RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-26 Thread rpjday
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Heck, 512K! Thus spake the Gates, IIRC. > > "640K of memory ought to be enough for anybody." > -- Bill Gates *please* knock off this nonsense. unless you have a *specific*, *verifiable* source for this quote, al

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-26 Thread rpaiz
> Heck, 512K! Thus spake the Gates, IIRC. "640K of memory ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROT

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-23 Thread Krikofer
barrier? Geez. CH - Original Message - From: "Gustav Schaffter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 12:37 PM Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > I've read this on the net, but I'm not sure abo

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-23 Thread Gustav Schaffter
I've read this on the net, but I'm not sure about how true it is. May be just another urban legend. :-) "I think there's a world market for about five computers." -- Thomas J. Watson (Chairman of the Board, IBM), 1943 Regards Gustav Krikofer wrote: > > Yeah, like IBM way back then when they

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-23 Thread Krikofer
Bill Gates will be our friend if we give him our paychecks every month. Might be worth it. :) CH - Original Message - From: "Silviu Cojocaru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-22 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, at 17:50 (GMT -0800), Krikofer wrote: > Yeah, like IBM way back then when they say we never need any more than 640k > ram. If I not err, I think that was our friend Bill Gates that said that... He never said anything about the 8 meg of ram thingy... -- If Bill Gates h

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-22 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, at 15:30 (GMT -0800), Thornton Prime wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chuck Mead wrote: > > > Here's what Micro$oft said about the matter themselves: > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/web/news/msnw/Hotmail.asp > > Ouch. That made my side hurt from laughing too much. > >

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-22 Thread Krikofer
Yeah, like IBM way back then when they say we never need any more than 640k ram. - Original Message - From: "Jacob Killian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballm

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-22 Thread Silviu Cojocaru
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, at 16:19 (GMT -0500), jack wallen, jr. wrote: > you can visit it with this page: > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/ > > which returns: > > The site www.hotmail.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000. I have just made an account at hotmail to "testdrive" it,

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jerry Winegarden
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Jacob Killian wrote: > Regarding Sun's licensing of sourcecode: > > http://www.sun.com/solaris/source/ > > But I think this is a recent offering (probably in response to Linux). It does ^^^ No, Sun source code licenses have been around for

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Vineeta
I haven't heard of Sun releasing their source code freely.But,yes,i did hear them coming out with solaris 8 free binary. check out this site to see that under this license,one cannot modify their source code: http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/bcl.html and then,M$ says,it had to do *wh

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Thornton Prime
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chuck Mead wrote: > Here's what Micro$oft said about the matter themselves: > > http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/web/news/msnw/Hotmail.asp Ouch. That made my side hurt from laughing too much. thornton ___ Redhat-list mailing

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread rpjday
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, rpjday wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chris Worth wrote: > > > that was 640k of memory... just to clarify :) > > no, it wasn't. this is an urban legend that has been debunked > on more than one occasion. feel free to zip over to www.urbanlegends.com > for the full story. by

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread rpjday
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chris Worth wrote: > that was 640k of memory... just to clarify :) no, it wasn't. this is an urban legend that has been debunked on more than one occasion. feel free to zip over to www.urbanlegends.com for the full story. rday __

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jacob Killian
Regarding Sun's licensing of sourcecode: http://www.sun.com/solaris/source/ But I think this is a recent offering (probably in response to Linux). It does mention a "huge source code fee". Knowing Sun, they probably charged M$ out the blank-ess-ess for the source. I thought for sure that hotm

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Chris Worth
that was 640k of memory... just to clarify :) chris On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:07:07 -0600, Jacob Killian wrote: >This, from the company who's new desktop OS (XZ, ZX, XT, ?) comes installed >with remote administration turned on. Oh yeah, that's a REAL good idea. > >Sorry, M$ is running scared.

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jacob Killian
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:43 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > > > > > > > > > > On 21 Mar 2001, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > > >

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jacob Killian
I find it interesting that in their explaination, they state: "Windows NT Server is a true multipurpose operating system. Enterprise computing depends on scalability, manageability, and reliability, as well as low cost of ownership. Windows NT Servers delivers on all three while providing builtin

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Chuck Mead
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Hank Wethington blurted out: HW>Also, you can get a hotmail account (GASP!) and send an e-mail to your self HW>and notice that the headers say it is qmail... as qmail does not run on HW>Winblows, there is proof of the use of an *nix system. AFAIK hotmail uses HW>FreeBSD and q

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread TANNER
6 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > > > Also, you can get a hotmail account (GASP!) and send an > e-mail to your self > and notice that the headers say it is qmail... as qmail does > not run on > Winblow

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Hank Wethington
]]On Behalf Of Jonathan Wilson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? It is FreeBSD. The front end servers are Win2k, but they whole thing's been on FreeBSD for a while. Search Linuxtoday or SlashDot f

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread TANNER
> Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > > > > > On 21 Mar 2001, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > > > "jack wallen, jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > The site www.hotmail.com is running Microsoft-I

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jacob Killian
of an ip address. Dig, nslookup and host don't > really shed any light on that. > > Regards, > Rob > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jacob Killian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Chuck Mead
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Jonathan Wilson blurted out: JW>It is FreeBSD. The front end servers are Win2k, but they whole JW>thing's been on FreeBSD for a while. Search Linuxtoday or SlashDot JW>for "hotmail" if you don't belive :-) Here's what Micro$oft said about the matter themselves: http://www.m

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Chuck Mead
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurted out: >How do we verify that HotMail is running Apache on >FreeBSD/Solaris/Linux/Win2K/DOS/whatever? Again, I'm looking to >substantiate the claim. http://serverwatch.internet.com/reviews/platform-freebsd.html -- Chuck Mead, csm -AT- moongroup.com,

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Thornton Prime
On 21 Mar 2001, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > "jack wallen, jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The site www.hotmail.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000. > > That only say what the front web server is running... the back is > still running on Solaris, AFAIR. Microsoft's woes

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Mike Burger
> > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jacob Killian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:07 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > &g

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilson
It is FreeBSD. The front end servers are Win2k, but they whole thing's been on FreeBSD for a while. Search Linuxtoday or SlashDot for "hotmail" if you don't belive :-) At 04:24 PM 3/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: >"jack wallen, jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The site www.hotmail.com is running

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread TANNER
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > > > Pick your nits, it was FreeBSD. > > ((N)) <-Bucket Full O' Nits. > > In ANY case, you'd think they'd recognize that they are their > own worst enemy

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Michael R. Jinks
t; > > -Original Message- > > From: Jacob Killian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > > > > > > This

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Rick Warner
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For that matter, is there some sort of command I can use to find out > the type of O/S at the end of an ip address. Dig, nslookup and host don't > really shed any light on that. nmap can do TCP signatures and take a stab at the OS. I find it is g

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jacob Killian
Pick your nits, it was FreeBSD. ((N)) <-Bucket Full O' Nits. In ANY case, you'd think they'd recognize that they are their own worst enemy (they being M$, not the innocent Nits). Jacob On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Jacob Killian wrote: > > >get hot

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
"jack wallen, jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The site www.hotmail.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000. That only say what the front web server is running... the back is still running on Solaris, AFAIR. -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc. _

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread jack wallen, jr.
> Rob > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jacob Killian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > > > > &g

RE: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread TANNER
host don't really shed any light on that. Regards, Rob > -Original Message- > From: Jacob Killian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 2:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS? > &g

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Michael R. Jinks
Jacob Killian wrote: > Sorry, M$ is running scared. You'd think that after years of not being able to > get hotmail.com off of linux/apache, Wasn't it Solaris/Apache? I heard a few months ago that they were trying it again with NT, haven't heard whether they succeeded or not. > People used to

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Jacob Killian wrote: >get hotmail.com off of linux/apache, Ballmer wouldn't be calling it a "toy". (Not to pick nits, but I thought it was FreeBSD ...?) - -- David Talkington Prairienet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 217-244-1962 PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtal

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread Jacob Killian
This, from the company who's new desktop OS (XZ, ZX, XT, ?) comes installed with remote administration turned on. Oh yeah, that's a REAL good idea. Sorry, M$ is running scared. You'd think that after years of not being able to get hotmail.com off of linux/apache, Ballmer wouldn't be calling it

Re: OT: Anybody else gettin' sick of Ballmer's BS?

2001-03-21 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Chuck Mead wrote: >http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/03/21/3513425 No, Chuck - it makes me smile. His is not the language of confidence. Ballmer sounds confused and defensive, and that speaks for itself. - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.sp