Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Paul Greene
The Washington DC/ Northern Virginia area, while not exactly booming with IT jobs, is probably in better shape than most of the rest of the country. The main reason is the Federal government. Working for government contractors doesn't pay as much as what you'd be used to in the commercial

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Joe Polk
Most such jobs require clearance. How would one obtain clearance ahead of applying for a job with the gub'munt? JAV On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 09:09, Paul Greene wrote: The Washington DC/ Northern Virginia area, while not exactly booming with IT jobs, is probably in better shape than most of the

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Paul Greene
Immediates clearances are only needed if you work for DoD or an intelligence agency. If you get hired by someone who's clients are mainly civilian agencies, you don't need a clearance. Actually the first time I got hired in this area was for a DoD client, and I didn't have a clearance either.

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread David Busby
that counts. My resume tip: demonstrate increasing skills and responsibility -- that shows you are motivated and can educate yourself. /B - Original Message - From: nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 12:17 Subject: Re: RHCE looking for a job

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Joe Polk
I see a lot of jobs, even here in GA, that require clearance and wondered how it might be obtained. JAV On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 10:19, Paul Greene wrote: Immediates clearances are only needed if you work for DoD or an intelligence agency. If you get hired by someone who's clients are mainly

RE: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Richard Humphrey
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Polk Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RHCE looking for a job I see a lot of jobs, even here in GA, that require clearance and wondered how it might be obtained. JAV On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 10:19, Paul Greene wrote: Immediates

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Paul Greene
If a clearance is required before you start, you're out of luck. To apply for a clearance in the first place, if you didn't already have a clearance from being in the military or something, your employer has to fill out a form stating the need for you to have a clearance, and give a specific

RE: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Billy
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Polk Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RHCE looking for a job I see a lot of jobs, even here in GA, that require clearance and wondered how it might be obtained. JAV On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 10

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Joe Polk
That's the answer I was looking for. g JAV On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 13:59, Paul Greene wrote: If a clearance is required before you start, you're out of luck. To apply for a clearance in the first place, if you didn't already have a clearance from being in the military or something, your

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-21 Thread Gene Yoo
David Busby wrote: that counts. My resume tip: demonstrate increasing skills and responsibility -- that shows you are motivated and can educate yourself. i think david has pointed to the best advice that anyone could give during an interview! thank goodness i'm in management also : ),

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Kevin MacNeil
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:03:54PM -0800, nate wrote: I replied to the poster off-list ..but wanted to point out that certs in the UNIX/linux world are about worthless at the moment. I've been lookin for a job for 7 months, applied to about 70 positions, had about 20 interviews, came

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
it's very sorry to know.. but the reason behind it is that GNU/Linux requires knowledge as its primary requisite, not certification.. ritesh Quoting Sergey Motorny [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Everyone, I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration and about to complete

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Rebecca_King
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Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Ric Tibbetts
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Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Richard Crawford
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RE: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread christopher cuse
State of Mississippi Ritesh Raj Sarraf [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ome.net cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: RHCE looking for a job redhat

RE: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Robert Adkins II
, Inc. 586-254-5800 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of christopher cuse Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RHCE looking for a job Hello All, I'm certified RHCE and CNNA and also looking for work. Located

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Ric Tibbetts
Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality State of Mississippi Ritesh Raj Sarraf [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ome.net cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: RHCE looking

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread James_Martin
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 05:03:54PM -0800, nate wrote: I replied to the poster off-list ..but wanted to point out that certs in the UNIX/linux world are about worthless at the moment. I've been lookin for a job for 7 months, applied to about 70 positions, had about 20 interviews, came *really*

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread John Nichel
Good luck. Unlike 2+ years ago, when the head-hunters were call us at work, the tech industry has taken a big hit. I just recently got another job after 8 months of unemployment. If you're in the States, you'll better your chances if you are willing to relocate to anywhere that will offer

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread John Nichel
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Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Francisco Neira
John Nichel wrote: Hey Rebecca, does the Mississippi Department of Enviromental Quality have any 60k+/year openings for a Louisiana Linux geek? :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a terrible thing that there are young people, eager to work, with great qualifications who have punched all the right

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Ric Tibbetts
Unfortunately, relocating isn't even always an option. I'm seeing more, and more statements like the following: --- Principals only. Candidates OUTSIDE OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN THIS SEARCH. [Company name removed] is an Equal Opportunity Employer. --- Maybe they need to

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread John Nichel
Yeah, I saw alot of those too when I was out of work. When I reached the 6 month stage of no job, I added this to the top of my resume... Willing to relocate at own expense I had a job two months later. Ric Tibbetts wrote: Unfortunately, relocating isn't even always an option. I'm seeing

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Gene Yoo
nate wrote: good luck to all those unemployed out there..! nate (unemployed and loving it..not!) oh..and I'm in washington state. in MS's backyard, so close I can almost spit on them(their HQ is 3 miles away). moved here in 3/2000 from california. spit away : ) -- gyoo [at] attbi [dot] com

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Ric Tibbetts
chuckle Yeah, I hear that. I try to make it clear that I'm a contractor, and relocating just goes with the territory, AND point out that I'm willing to relocate at my own expense. It makes a difference to some employers. Some, and just cheap, and don't want to pay expensive relocation expenses. If

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Tim Willis
I concur. I was going to be laid off at the end of August 2001, but had the good fortune of knowing this six months in advance (the boss was a friend of mine). However, I looked for six months to find a job in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, with no success. I finally landed a job here in Laredo,

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread nate
Ric Tibbetts said: Unfortunately, relocating isn't even always an option. I'm seeing more, and more statements like the following: --- Principals only. Candidates OUTSIDE OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN THIS SEARCH. [Company name removed] is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread nate
Ric Tibbetts said: So far, I've never had to resort to using the phrase Would you like fries with that? in the course of my work day. But when you need to feed the family, don't get too picky when the market is like it is now. I haven't either and won't for a while luckily. But even that job

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Jeff Kinz
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RE: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread Richard Humphrey
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RHCE looking for a job On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 08:02:59AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a terrible thing that there are young people, eager to work, with great qualifications who have punched all the right buttons, yet can't even get an interview! Don't take

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-20 Thread CM Miller
Sorry to be off topic here, but I have some HR experience here...how geek is that? I used to work in HR for a very large transportation company before I was laid off too, but what the deal is with this that there is no money allocated for relocating folks from outside the area...So that is why

RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-19 Thread Sergey Motorny
Hello Everyone, I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration and about to complete Master's in Computer Information Systems. I am fluent in English/Russian, have a year of IT experience, and also hold Network+ and A+ certifications. I have been looking for a Linux job for

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-19 Thread David Busby
man resume - Original Message - From: Sergey Motorny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 15:45 Subject: RHCE looking for a job Hello Everyone, I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration and about to complete Master's

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-19 Thread Joe Polk
Oh that was baaad! :) JAV' On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 18:50, David Busby wrote: man resume - Original Message - From: Sergey Motorny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 15:45 Subject: RHCE looking for a job Hello Everyone, I am a 22

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-19 Thread Gene Yoo
David Busby wrote: man resume this is so wrong :) yes i have a smile on my face also... i think in general, all job market is pretty bad right now. i don't care how many certs you may have, the bottom line is the job market is bloated. if the original poster is really serious about finding

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-19 Thread Joe Polk
The problem right now is fewer jobs for more people. The big bust left a lot of IT folk out of work. I have over 8 years of solid network and systems admin experience from Netware, NT/2000, UNIX, and Linux and I can't find a job either. Either people are looking for someone who can do everything

Re: RHCE looking for a job

2003-03-19 Thread nate
Gene Yoo said: David Busby wrote: man resume this is so wrong :) yes i have a smile on my face also... i think in general, all job market is pretty bad right now. i don't care how many certs you may have, the bottom line is the job market is bloated. if the original poster is really