Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-25 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: A technical debate is not won with volume, it's won with technical merit. Frankly, there are very few people--very few--that are competent enough to technically compare Linux to any other operating system. Hell, there are few enough people

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-25 Thread Jeff Douglass
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Bruce Tong wrote: [...] I don't mean to be ignorant here, but if I shouldn't refer to the operating system as "Linux", how should I refer to the operating system? Does "the Red Hat distribution of Linux", or more

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-25 Thread Scott McDermott
Tom Diehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 07:55:54AM -0500: To say it isn't an operating system may be construed as being wrong. It provides the critical component for an operating system, does it not? So what it still is not an operating system, it is a kernel. Would Linux/GNU

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Steve \Stevers!\ Coile
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Scott McDermott wrote: [...] To say it isn't an operating system may be construed as being wrong. It provides the critical component for an operating system, does it not? Certainly, but the Linux kernel is a very minor part of the character of the operating system: it has

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread rhl
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Tom Diehl wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Scott McDermott wrote: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 11:48:50PM -0500: A technical debate is not won with volume, it's won with technical merit. Frankly, there are very few

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Steve \Stevers!\ Coile
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What is an OS ? Sure Linux has a kernel, but that kernel and some other things "make a computer work". Basicly, isn't that what an OS does ? Absolutely! But the kernel is just one of those things that "make a computer work". -- Steve

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Steve \Stevers!\ Coile
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Douglas F. Elznic wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Scott McDermott wrote: This is the wrong approach and is not very dissimilar from spam. All that would be accomplished here was to prove that we are well-connected fanatics. I guess you don't vote. How is a large number of

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Steve \Stevers!\ Coile
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Ken Arck wrote: Steve Coile wrote: A technical debate is not won with volume, it's won with technical merit. Hate to say it, but if that was *always* the case, MAC would be ahead of PC by now :) Of course, MAC is based on *nix, but In this day and age of 5 second sound

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Steve \Stevers!\ Coile
On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Bruce Tong wrote: [...] I don't mean to be ignorant here, but if I shouldn't refer to the operating system as "Linux", how should I refer to the operating system? Does "the Red Hat distribution of Linux", or more simply "RedHat Linux", convey the appropriate meaning? Yes.

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Lane J. Bryson
Douglas F. Elznic wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Scott McDermott wrote: This is the wrong approach and is not very dissimilar from spam. All that would be accomplished here was to prove that we are well-connected fanatics. ... messages saying you suck and so does your article. In my

Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux,...)

1998-03-24 Thread Wade Hampton
Folks, I agree we should send mail to Byte, but lets be polite and professional in doing so. We should politely point out 1) Why Linux is better, 2) What Linux does that NT/Solaris does not, and 3) How to best use Linux for WWW servers, and 4) How much a Linux box costs versus NT or Solaris.

FW: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Bradley, Greg
Steve Coile said : The Mac vs Wintel has never been a technical debate. A technical review and the editoral response is. Magazine editors are seldom intimidated. Actually, magazine editors are very often intimidated, usually by threats to pull advertising from big budget clients. The only

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Bruce Tong
What is an OS ? Sure Linux has a kernel, but that kernel and some other things "make a computer work". Basicly, isn't that what an OS does ? Absolutely! But the kernel is just one of those things that "make a computer work". I don't mean to be ignorant here, but if I shouldn't refer to

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Scott McDermott
Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 08:59:21PM -0800: A technical debate is not won with volume, it's won with technical merit. Hate to say it, but if that was *always* the case, MAC would be ahead of PC by now :) Of course, MAC is based on *nix, but Are you suggesting

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Scott McDermott
"Douglas F. Elznic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 07:42:49PM -0500: This is the wrong approach and is not very dissimilar from spam. All that would be accomplished here was to prove that we are well-connected fanatics. I guess you don't vote. How is a large number of well

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Scott McDermott
"Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 23, 1998 at 11:48:50PM -0500: A technical debate is not won with volume, it's won with technical merit. Frankly, there are very few people--very few--that are competent enough to technically compare Linux to any other operating system.

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Al Margheim
Perhaps, if Linux Operating System isn't correct, the Official Red Hat 5.0 Linux distribution package shouldn't say "Linux Operating System" on the box in numerous places. :) Al Margheim At 10:55 AM 3/24/98 -0500, you wrote: What is an OS ? Sure Linux has a kernel, but that kernel and some

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Ken Arck
Steve Coile wrote: A technical debate is not won with volume, it's won with technical merit. Hate to say it, but if that was *always* the case, MAC would be ahead of PC by now :) Of course, MAC is based on *nix, but In this day and age of 5 second sound bytes and "over with in 2 days"

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Bruce Tong
Linux is now where Unix was when I got into it 18 years ago: the best solution available for a wide variety of problems, but perceived as the domain of the lunatic fringe because it isn't associated with The Big Names. Maybe we can "out cool" the others. The web is a great place for all

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-24 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 01:51:22PM -0500, Bruce Tong wrote: Maybe we can "out cool" the others. The web is a great place for all consumers and corporations. A nice simple "Linux Hosted" or "Developed on Red Hat Linux" graphic on all our web pages would go a long way. Then link them all to a

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux,...)

1998-03-24 Thread Patrick T. Berry
I am opening a store to try to educate, and sell Linux boxes at the same time. Computers Gadgets, Inc. at 4950 South Orange Blossom Trail, Orlando, Florida 32839, and I hope to serve both the local Linux Users Groups with Freebies, and share knowledge. I will sell machines at the lowest

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-23 Thread Douglas F. Elznic
On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: I think that we (Linux users) should make them hear our voice writing hundreds of complaining e-mails ([EMAIL PROTECTED])... I think that every member of this mailing list should send a little blurb to the editors at byte in regards to

Re: Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-23 Thread Scott McDermott
"Douglas F. Elznic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, Mar 22, 1998 at 10:51:15PM -0500: e-mails ([EMAIL PROTECTED])... I think that every member of this mailing list should send a little blurb to the editors at byte in regards to thier crappy article. It would be a grewat showing of support for our

Want to give back to linux? Was Re: BYTE reviews Web servers (on Linux, Solaris, Digital, HP-UXand NT)

1998-03-22 Thread Douglas F. Elznic
On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Rita Meng wrote: I think that we (Linux users) should make them hear our voice writing hundreds of complaining e-mails ([EMAIL PROTECTED])... I think that every member of this mailing list should send a little blurb to the editors at byte in regards to thier crappy