Re: Substantial burden and requirements imposed on people who choose to go into certain businesses

2015-08-16 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Marty, If I understand your position, it seems to be that the government has the final say to define what are the "necessary" components of any occupation. Under this view, so long as the government, in its wisdom, defines something as necessary to a job, al‎l citizens must fall in line and ei

Re: Religious organizations, tax-exempt status and same-sex marriage

2015-04-29 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
So if I understand this right, religious institutions shouldn't take the Obama Administration's Solicitor General at his word when he says tax exempt status will be an "issue" or they should just assume he gave an incompetent answer? I don't think it's "fear-mongering"‎ to actually take him at hi

RE: Eugene's Blog Post on Liberals and Exemption Rights

2015-04-01 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
“"[l]iberals who opposed Smith in 1990 and supported RFRA in 1993 — including liberal organizations, professors, and politicians — largely continue to support religious exemptions for individuals, while opposing the extension of such exemptions to commercial businesses." I’m not sure I’m seeing

Re: Amazing what Hobby Lobby has wrought

2015-03-27 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
At least 3 circuits have already interpreted the federal RFRA to provide a defense in a case involving private parties and the Obama DOJ has also endorsed that position in the past. So, the Indiana RFRA is not breaking new ground here‎. From: Nelson Tebbe Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 5:59 PM

RE: Amazing what Hobby Lobby has wrought

2015-03-27 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
And I don't think we want to create a society where we the only exercise of religion we protect is religious exercise that the elites are comfortable with. Perhaps I'm misreading them, but it seems that many contributors to this list are only fans of protecting religious liberty in the milque

Re: bigotry and sincere religious belief

2014-02-27 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Greg, If you or others are genuinely interested in exploring detailed arguments explaining why opposition to same sex marriage is not irrational bigotry, I would commend either the law review article or the longer book by Sherif Girgis, Robert P. George, and Ryan T. Anderson entitled "What

Re: It must not be a compelling interest since there are so many "exceptions"

2014-02-21 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
o whom? The claim is spurious. See http://balkin.blogspot.com/2014/01/hobby-lobby-part-iv-myth-of.html On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Gaubatz, Derek mailto:dgaub...@imb.org>> wrote: I don’t find the proposition to be particularly comforting that religious liberty concerns must take a

RE: RLPA history for RLUIPA

2014-02-21 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
We've been down this road before:forcing plaintiffs to choose between abandoning their religious beliefs, paying crippling penalties, or becoming a second-class employer that doesn't offer its employees benefits is a government imposed substantial burden.It's only those employers with re

RE: recommended Hobby Lobby posts

2014-02-21 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
I don't find the proposition to be particularly comforting that religious liberty concerns must take a back seat in areas "highly regulated" by the government as opposed to "lightly regulated" ones.Instead, it seems to me that the need to vigorously protect free exercise of religion is of gr

Re: Notre Dame-- where's the complicit "participation"? Sincerity

2014-02-17 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Respectfully, I think you missed the point of Professor Sisk's argument (and mine in the preceding post). The argument is not that religious views are the only ones that matter and that they must triumph over women's health concerns. Instead, the argument was that with just a modicum of effo

Re: Notre Dame-- where's the complicit "participation"? Sincerity

2014-02-16 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Re Marci's assertion that the slippery slope is "perpendicular" if for profit corporations are recognized to be protected under RFRA, it seems to me that we don't have to just rely on the rhetorical speculation of Marci and the Obama administration in its brief. Instead, we have, as Marty has he

Re: The government's brief

2014-01-11 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Maybe I'm missing your point, but it seems to me that forcing religious employers to such a coercive choice hardly relieves the burden. Why should an employer be forced, because of its religious convictions to refuse to offer its employees health coverage? The fact that there is a legal opti

Re: Conestoga Opening Brief -- Free Exercise/Selective Exemption Argument

2014-01-11 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Marty, I'd likewise quibble with your characterization of the grandfather provision. A plan can maintain its grandfather provision for the foreseeable future so long as it abides by the conditions for doing so. This was at least part of the basis for the President's infamous "if you like your p

RE: The nonprofit contraception services cases

2014-01-06 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
It seems to me that there is a much less nefarious explanation. In the context of those Establishment Clause challenges, it was permissible for a religious entity like Notre Dame to receive the government funds so long as they were not used for items deemed to be inherently religious activities

Re: A right not to be compelled to create expression?

2013-08-24 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Actually, the creator is the copyright owner of the work unless the purchaser successfully negotiates for a work for hire agreement. From: Marci Hamilton [mailto:hamilto...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 01:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Law & Religion issues fo

RE: Harmony and the freedom of religion (RE: New Twist On Challenge to ACA Contraceptive Mandate)

2013-08-19 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
"To avoid a conflict over religion, government should simply take no cognizance of religion, and if it will do that, then 'no man's right' to religious freedom will be abridged by civil society." I'm not sure whether this is a view that Professor Ellis is somehow imputing to Madison (wrongly in

RE: RFRA and claimants' theories of complicity

2012-10-04 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
I'd also add that the law already does impose liability in the health care reimbursement context for the type of complicity Eugene notes below. Among its various regulations, the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) prohibits US persons from engaging in any transactions with any entity on OF

RE: RFRA and claimants' theories of complicity

2012-10-04 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
I'd also add that the law already does impose liability in the health care reimbursement context for the type of complicity Eugene notes below. Among its various regulations, the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) prohibits US persons from engaging in any transactions with any entity on OF

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-03 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Marci, The substantial burden theory here is not new, it's merely another factual iteration of what the Supreme Court has previously recognized in cases like Yoder to be a substantial burden: levying a financial penalty against an individual who refuses to violate his sincere religious b

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-03 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Marci, The substantial burden theory here is not new, it’s merely another factual iteration of what the Supreme Court has previously recognized in cases like Yoder to be a substantial burden: levying a financial penalty against an individual who refuses to violate his sincere religious b

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-03 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Marci, The substantial burden theory here is not new, it’s merely another factual iteration of what the Supreme Court has previously recognized in cases like Yoder to be a substantial burden: levying a financial penalty against an individual who refuses to violate his sincere religious b

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-03 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Marci, The substantial burden theory here is not new, it’s merely another factual iteration of what the Supreme Court has previously recognized in cases like Yoder to be a substantial burden: levying a financial penalty against an individual who refuses to violate his sincere religious b

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-03 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Marci, The substantial burden theory here is not new, it’s merely another factual iteration of what the Supreme Court has previously recognized in cases like Yoder to be a substantial burden: levying a financial penalty against an individual who refuses to violate his sincere religious b

Re: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-02 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
. Cardozo School of Law Yeshiva University 55 Fifth Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212) 790-0215 hamilto...@aol.com -----Original Message- From: Gaubatz, Derek Dear Chip,   Thomas is not mentioned in the findings of RFRA, but it’s holding is certainly incorporated into the definition of rel

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-02 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Chip, Thomas is not mentioned in the findings of RFRA, but it's holding is certainly incorporated into the definition of religious exercise in RFRA (and RLUIPA). In fact, it seems to me that much of the discussion on this list and in the O'Brien case of whether there is a substantial b

RE: Court Rejects Religious Liberty Challenges To ACA Mandate--interpreting "substantial burden"

2012-10-02 Thread Gaubatz, Derek
Dear Chip, Thomas is not mentioned in the findings of RFRA, but it's holding is certainly incorporated into the definition of religious exercise in RFRA (and RLUIPA). In fact, it seems to me that much of the discussion on this list and in the O'Brien case of whether there is a substantial b