RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-22 Thread Michael Masinter
it is part of the brand of the city. Eric From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Brownstein, Alan [aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:06 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law A

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Eric Rassbach
December 21, 2010 5:06 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols I agree with Michael for the most part and certainly with his statement that expressions of religious faith are not analogous to

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Brownstein, Alan
aw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Masinter Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:47 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Alan's examples of uniform language expressing racia

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Michael Masinter
s.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Masinter Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:12 AM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols As always, Eugene asks good questions. Religious discrimination claims can take several forms -- dispa

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Brownstein, Alan
sinter > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:12 AM > To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down > religioussymbols > > As always, Eugene asks good questions. > > Religious discrimination claims can take seve

Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Nathan Oman
onlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- > > boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Masinter > > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 11:12 AM > > To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > > Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down > > religi

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Volokh, Eugene
2010 11:12 AM > To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down > religioussymbols > > As always, Eugene asks good questions. > > Religious discrimination claims can take several forms -- disparate > treatment, failure to accomm

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Michael Masinter
The list could go on. Eugene -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Masinter Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:01 AM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Volokh, Eugene
ionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- > boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Masinter > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:01 AM > To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down > religioussymbols > > I do

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Michael Masinter
5:09 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Alan -- Does your analysis below apply equally to religious organizations and non-religious organizations? One example I think would be interesting i

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Volokh, Eugene
On Behalf Of Brownstein, Alan > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:54 AM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down > religioussymbols > > I always assumed, although I admit without much reflection, that the

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-21 Thread Brownstein, Alan
-- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Rassbach Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 5:09 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Alan -- D

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Eric Rassbach
onlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Brownstein, Alan [aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:26 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols I think Doug is correct that there

Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Michael Masinter
er 17, 2010 4:36 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Do you think there is a discrimination issue as well as an accommodation issue in cases like this, Eugene. Suppose a bank in a southern st

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Brownstein, Alan
ionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas Laycock Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:52 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Eric Rassbach Subject: Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols It doesn't make sense to call religious truth cl

Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Douglas Laycock
laims are a feature, not a bug, of religious life, so it >>> doesn't make sense to call one group's truth claims or the symbols >>> representing those truth claims "offensive" or discriminatory per se. >>> >>> >>> ___

Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Michael Masinter
.ucla.edu] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:33 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Alan: Can you flesh out the discrimination theory more? I take it that the claim is

Re: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Douglas Laycock
@lists.ucla.edu >[mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Brownstein, Alan >Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 4:36 PM >To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics >Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down >religioussymbols > >Do you th

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Eric Rassbach
& Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Alan: Can you flesh out the discrimination theory more? I take it that the claim is that requiring everyone to display something would constit

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Scarberry, Mark
ject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Alan: Can you flesh out the discrimination theory more? I take it that the claim is that requiring everyone to display something would constitute discrimination (not just failure to accommo

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-20 Thread Volokh, Eugene
onlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Brownstein, Alan Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 4:36 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Do you think there is a

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-17 Thread Brownstein, Alan
cs Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols It's possible that the question has not arisen, and that if a non-Christian employee objected to having an item displayed on his workstation, the bank would accommodate him. It's not clear t

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-17 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, December 17, 2010 3:37 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Very interesting, thanks! But I'm a bit confused by the Kansas City Fed chairman's statement, http://www

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-17 Thread Brownstein, Alan
ademics Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols Very interesting, thanks! But I'm a bit confused by the Kansas City Fed chairman's statement, http://www.kansascityfed.org/publicat/newsroom/2010pdf/press.release.12.17.pdf . It

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-17 Thread Volokh, Eugene
ember 17, 2010 3:31 PM To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols This story from the Oklahoma City newspaper indicates that the Federal Reserve has changed its position about the bank and the i

RE: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols

2010-12-17 Thread Kevin Pybas
_ From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 3:09 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Federal regulators apparently force bank to take down religioussymbols