RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Scarberry, Mark
berry Pepperdine Univ. School of Law Malibu, CA 90263 (310)506-4667 From: Scarberry, Mark Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 9:16 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays In response to Marci:

RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Scarberry, Mark
Law Academics Cc: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays And if the NYT refused to include same- sex couples in its wedding section, it would be sued. Or mixed race couples. Or to sell to same-sex cou

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Steven Jamar
gt;> Pepperdine University School of Law >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone >> >> >> >> ---- Original message ---- >> From: Brad Pardee >> Date: 08/23/2013 12:44 AM (GMT-08:00) >> To: 'Law &

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Marci Hamilton
TE Smartphone > > > > Original message > From: Brad Pardee > Date: 08/23/2013 12:44 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' > Subject: RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who > Disc

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Marci Hamilton
Wedding photography is speech for money, and a lot of it. The photographer who depicts the wedding in a non- joyous manner is not going to get paid, is going to receive terrible reviews online, and even be boycotted. She or he will find themselves with no wedding jobs. The photographer who

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Jean Dudley
Wait a second: For whatever reason the NYT exists, whether an altruistic free expression of news, or as a greed capitalist oppressive tool of The Man, it's still illegal to refuse to sell papers to someone because they are gay/straight/black/white/Catholic/Jewish/Iranian(whoa, are there any emb

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Jean Dudley
igionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu > [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Dudley > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:28 AM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who > Discriminat

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Jean Dudley
ties in to the subject > at hand. > > Brad > > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu > [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Dudley > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:28 AM > To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics > Subject: R

RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Scarberry, Mark
sts. Mark Scarberry Pepperdine University School of Law Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone Original message From: Brad Pardee Date: 08/23/2013 12:44 AM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: New Mexico Supreme Cou

RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Brad Pardee
subject at hand. Brad From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Jean Dudley Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:28 AM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Jean Dudley
Again, as a photographer, once you put your unique artistic style on the market, it is a business. If you can't provide your unique artistic style to everyone, and insist on withholding it based on religious belief, then you need to offer your unique artistic style free to friends and family;

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-23 Thread Jean Dudley
On Aug 22, 2013, at Thu, Aug 22, 9:06 PM, "Brad Pardee" wrote: > This is not correct. The issue is neither the customers' identity or the > free market. It is about the merchant being required to participate in > events that they cannot participate in by virtue of the tenets of thier faith

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Scarberry, Mark
To follow up on Will's point, would the photographers violate the law, or the contract the law requires them to make, if they did not attempt to portray the wedding as a joyous celebration? I presume they would at least violate the implied terms of the contract that is forced upon them. If so, t

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Will Esser
jorem Dei Gloriam Private Practice Charlotte, North Carolina   From: Brad Pardee To: 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer

RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Brad Pardee
a.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Jamar Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:29 PM To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays I'll bet the ph

RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Brad Pardee
.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:28 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding

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2013-08-22 Thread Steven Jamar
sses for "religious freedom" in today's climate. > > Brad Pardee > > From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu > [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:28 PM > To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Subject: New Mexico

Re: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Marci Hamilton
a.edu > [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:28 PM > To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu > Subject: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who > Discriminated Against Gays > > > New Mexico Supreme C

RE: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Brad Pardee
om: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:28 PM To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays New Mexico Supreme

New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays

2013-08-22 Thread Joel
New Mexico Supreme Court Rules Against Wedding Photographer Who Discriminated Against Gays Jonathan Higbee | August 22, 2013 The New Mexico state Supreme Court has ruled against a photography business that refused to photograph a gay couple's commitment ceremony because THE