Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up...

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for everyone on the list, the idea of higher channels on a trunked system being less used only applies to LTR systems, where everyone is assigned a 'home channel', and you only go to another channel if that's in use. Never say

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Combining questions

2005-08-05 Thread Tom Saunders
about 55% of each transmitter's output gets burned up in a dummy load, each time two signals are combined. Thus, eight 100 watt repeaters combined into one antenna will have about 11 watts at the antenna. While it is true that aprox. 50% of the power from each transmitter is lost in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Combining questions

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
Tom Saunders wrote: about 55% of each transmitter's output gets burned up in a dummy load, each time two signals are combined. Thus, eight 100 watt repeaters combined into one antenna will have about 11 watts at the antenna. While it is true that aprox. 50% of the power from each

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Combining questions

2005-08-05 Thread FHS
Gentlemen: I guess I will add my 2 cents worth here. In a two Tx Ferrite Hybrid combiner each Tx will have at least one ferrite isolator and some times three between the TX and the combiner. For a two Tx combiner there will be approximately 3.5 db loss for each Tx. When increasing to a four Tx

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector Preamp, Re: midland 13-509 220mhz to convert to repeater

2005-08-05 Thread Joe
The GLB worked very well on my FM-76 (aka 13-509) but it only gave about 8dB gain overall to the receiver. Most of the gain was lost in the helical coil front end, but it worked wonders on marginal receivers. It tighten up the receiver and gave the impression of more added gain than 8dB. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2005-08-05 Thread Joe
I move them a little at a time, don't try to make big changes or you will not be able to get a signal through it. If you want to, you can take the cover off and inject a signal into each stage. Work from the output towards the antenna connection. When you are able to get a signal from input

[Repeater-Builder] Hybrid vs Ferrite Combiner

2005-08-05 Thread skipp025
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should also be clarified that this is the major difference between a hybrid ferrite combiner and a cavity combiner. The hybrid can be used with any freq's in the specified band, no matter how close spaced

[Repeater-Builder] Hybrid vs Cavity Combiner

2005-08-05 Thread skipp025
Sorry about the previous blank post. In a best of the world situation, you can hope for about 2.8 dB loss through a Cavity system. Through a hybrid combiner system you can hope for about a 3.5 dB (best) loss. Hybrids only if you must... otherwise you end up with a room full of space

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Combining questions

2005-08-05 Thread skipp025
FHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen: I guess I will add my 2 cents worth here. In a two Tx Ferrite Hybrid combiner each Tx will have at least one ferrite isolator and some times three between the TX and the combiner. Min typical spec should include 2, although 1 is common. For a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hybrid vs Cavity Combiner

2005-08-05 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/5/2005 08:34 AM, you wrote: Sorry about the previous blank post. In a best of the world situation, you can hope for about 2.8 dB loss through a Cavity system. I get 2.0 dB loss from my 2 TX UHF combiner: 2 isolators 1 pass can on each TX. I optimized the cavity-to-T cable lengths for

[Repeater-Builder] shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread ANTHONY
Follow up from the original thread !! I have a Micor Motorola mobile repeater operating on 147.165 MHz and I have foreign broadcast transmitting on a frequency of 11.700 MHz which is getting into the IF section of my receiver which also operates on the same frequency 11.700 MHz so my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
ANTHONY wrote: Follow up from the original thread !! I have a Micor Motorola mobile repeater operating on 147.165 MHz and I have foreign broadcast transmitting on a frequency of 11.700 MHz which is getting into the IF section of my receiver which also operates on the same frequency

Re: [Repeater-Builder] shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
Jim B. wrote: Use the same ground as the lighting arrestors, *lightning* =cp -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:28 PM 8/5/2005 -, you wrote: I have a Micor Motorola mobile repeater operating on 147.165 MHz and I have foreign broadcast transmitting on a frequency of 11.700 MHz which is getting into the IF section of my receiver which also operates on the same frequency 11.700 MHz so my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote: At 06:28 PM 8/5/2005 -, you wrote: I have a Micor Motorola mobile repeater operating on 147.165 MHz and I have foreign broadcast transmitting on a frequency of 11.700 MHz which is getting into the IF section of my receiver which also operates on the same frequency

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:20 PM 8/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: Not very well, but yeah, there's usually enough FM (maybe phase shift as it bounces off the atmosphere?) in the station to hear something, but it's not very intelligible. ---Well, I don't buy it. I have never heard of a case where a foreign shortwave

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/5/2005 12:33 PM, you wrote: At 03:20 PM 8/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: Not very well, but yeah, there's usually enough FM (maybe phase shift as it bounces off the atmosphere?) in the station to hear something, but it's not very intelligible. ---Well, I don't buy it. I have never heard of a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:40 PM 8/5/2005 -0700, you wrote: VOA. ---VOA isn't broadcast overseas but in NC I believe? Field strength has got to be a definate factor! Ken Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
Ken Arck wrote: At 03:20 PM 8/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: Not very well, but yeah, there's usually enough FM (maybe phase shift as it bounces off the atmosphere?) in the station to hear something, but it's not very intelligible. ---Well, I don't buy it. I have never heard of a case

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:54 PM 8/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: Yeah, it actually happend to us, with a Micor rx mounted in a non-unified chassis separated from the rest of the base. Other then the pop-on shield on top, no other shielding except the rack cabinet, and when the ground got pulled off, we started hearing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: shield this foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread James
The nearest DIODE is all you need to demod some AM, seen it many times in various things. Just not a micor yet. Ken Arck wrote: At 03:54 PM 8/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: Yeah, it actually happend to us, with a Micor rx mounted in a non-unified chassis separated from the rest of

[Repeater-Builder] WTB: 100 Watt Repeater Full Cycle Duty

2005-08-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
I'm looking at the pruchase of a repeater that is in the 100 watt range already converted in the ham bands. I want to interface it with my current controller, CAT 1000B. Looking for best prices, but also has to be able to be picked up, or shipped within reason. Let me know what you have. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 100 Watt Repeater Full Cycle Duty

2005-08-05 Thread Q
100 watts on what band? DOH! Mathew Quaife wrote: I'm looking at the pruchase of a repeater that is in the 100 watt range already converted in the ham bands. I want to interface it with my current controller, CAT 1000B. Looking for best prices, but also has to be able to be picked up, or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 100 Watt Repeater Full Cycle Duty

2005-08-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
oops, missed that one.VHF.sorry Mathew Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100 watts on what band? DOH!Mathew Quaife wrote:I'm looking at the pruchase of a repeater that is in the 100 watt range already converted in the ham bands. I want to interface it with my current controller, CAT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB: 100 Watt Repeater Full Cycle Duty

2005-08-05 Thread Mathew Quaife
2 Meters.Been a very long day.Too many hours and not enough sleep. Mathew Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100 watts on what band? DOH!Mathew Quaife wrote:I'm looking at the pruchase of a repeater that is in the 100 watt range already converted in the ham bands. I want to interface it with

[Repeater-Builder] Thanks for all the help, I'm leaving the group

2005-08-05 Thread n9lv
Just want to take a moment and say thanks to all those how have helped me along the way with my repeater system. Due to reasons I will not discuss, I've decided to leave the group. I will continue to stive for a great repeater, but if I don't, I will continue to work my 90 hours a week, and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: shield thid foreign broadcast ??

2005-08-05 Thread Al Wolfe
Anthony, You may have to put your receiver in a shielded box and bypass all the lines going in and out. I had to do this with a UHF station receiver that picked up cell phone transmitters several miles away, even with no antenna on the receiver. Drove me nuts for a while. Al, K9SI