[Repeater-Builder] FS-Motorola DES Key Loader

2006-02-06 Thread Micheal Salem
I have a Motorola DES Key Loader T3020AX which is surplus to my needs. This is the one built into the MX style radio case and has the HEX code pad. A very small portion of the upper right side of the keypad has become exposed, but still works well. I do not have any cables. It has a battery

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Roger Grady
At 10:55 PM 2/6/2006, Paul Finch wrote: >Kevin, > >Sorry to bother you again but where do you get these Toshiba S-AV15 modules? >I did a Google search and did not really find anything. $49.95 at RF Parts. http://www.rfparts.com/module.html#sav6 Roger Grady K9OPO Yahoo! Groups Links <*> T

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread no6b
At 2/6/2006 19:55, you wrote: >Kevin, > >Sorry to bother you again but where do you get these Toshiba S-AV15 modules? >I did a Google search and did not really find anything. > >Paul http://rfparts.com Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://gro

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Finch
Kevin, Sorry to bother you again but where do you get these Toshiba S-AV15 modules? I did a Google search and did not really find anything. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 6:3

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Recrystalled Element Problem

2006-02-06 Thread Randy Nelson
Eric, My entire reason for posting my original question was because for years I have ordered just xtals for elements on commercial repeaters and changed them myself. Everytime the xtal netted just fine. Even in tower shacks with minimal temperature control it was very rare for the need to re

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Finch
Kevin, OK, I understand now. I have (in a past life) worked as a RF engineer but don't have any of the equipment available to me. This is a Johnson Fleetcom II 530 radio I am trying to modify. Everything so far has moved to 224 MHz OK except these micro strips, it like it hits a brick wall. I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Recrystalled Element Problem

2006-02-06 Thread Eric Lemmon
Randy, I think the subject has been covered well enough already. Perhaps the best analogy would be a Hewlett-Packard power meter, where the sensor is matched to, and calibrated with, the meter itself. If the sensor should somehow be destroyed by accident, one could not simply purchase a new sens

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Recrystalled Element Problem

2006-02-06 Thread Randy Nelson
I tried another channel element and the error was worse. Both the xtal and element are on their way back to ICM. It will be interesting to see if ICM admits an error or blames it on the element. Randy Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 2 x mini CTCSS encoders needed Please

2006-02-06 Thread Brett
Hi thanks for the info. The 2 off that I need is ST-140. The only place left in the Kyodo KG-109 is in the VCO can. It has a removable cover and it has been done many time and works. Cheers Brett - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Micor and Link-comm RLC3

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin Custer
Steve Hutzley wrote: >Kevin, > >I have no clue. It has probably been 12-15 years since >this thing was converted. I assume the channel >elements were done professionally since the tag on top >of the channel element has 146T85000 on it (146.850 >MHz). > >Why do you ask? > >>Who recrystaled the cha

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dupelxer wierdness

2006-02-06 Thread safari_tim
Thanks Bryon.   I was using 20 Log Pout/Pin.  My fault.  I should have been using 10 Log Pout/Pin.  Thanks for setting me straight.   You're probably right about the 50 ohms difference between the test equipment and the transmitter.   It makes sense.   I also have a big difference between the bi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Kevin Custer
I think we are talking about Micro strips and not Micor strips, but I'll add to the confusion In the case of the Motorola Micor, the transistors in the PA will not operate on 220 MHz, so we pull the whole PA and use Japanese bricks Ke

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dupelxer wierdness

2006-02-06 Thread Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ
OOP's.. That should be 1.3dB not .3dB Sorry Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ At 05:59 PM 2/6/2006, you wrote: Tim, First off lets go over some numbers... 38 watts = 45.8dB 16 watts = 42dB So 38 into the duplexer and 16 out is roughly 3.8dB loss not 7.5dB... I don't have a Motorola 2600 but I do hav

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:57 PM 2/6/2006 -0500, you wrote: >The selective frequency information comes from the engineers at EIMAC. When >I toured their plant a number of years ago, I asked about the frequency >selectiveness of the transistors. The engineer told me that a UHF >transistor will not work at VHF. The im

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dupelxer wierdness

2006-02-06 Thread k1ike_mail
I prefer to use a wattmeter and not the service monitor for power readings. When I see strange things while checking power on a duplexer input or output, I always try to remember to look for reflected power. If the duplexer or equipmnet are not tuned to 50 ohm impeadance, the wattmeter will no

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dupelxer wierdness

2006-02-06 Thread jeff
> Then I checked the power. Power in was around 38 watts, and the > power out into the service monitor was around 16. Or about -7.5 > db inserstion loss. > > So then I just pulled the plungers under power ( I know it's a NO > NO), and got the output power up to 28 watts into the service > mon

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some help with Motorola phone patch

2006-02-06 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: " As I remember, the MCR100 is a motorcycle radio ... " __ Motorcycle?? Not this MCR100. MCR = "Motorola Compact Repeater" photo here: http://images.batlabs.com

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dupelxer wierdness

2006-02-06 Thread Bryon Jeffers K0BSJ
Tim, First off lets go over some numbers... 38 watts = 45.8dB 16 watts = 42dB So 38 into the duplexer and 16 out is roughly 3.8dB loss not 7.5dB... I don't have a Motorola 2600 but I do have an IFR1500 and it doesn't always measure RF power anywhere close to what my Bird watt meter does... Acco

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
The selective frequency information comes from the engineers at EIMAC. When I toured their plant a number of years ago, I asked about the frequency selectiveness of the transistors. The engineer told me that a UHF transistor will not work at VHF. The impedances are wrong as well as the transist

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 03:34 PM 2/6/2006 -0800, you wrote: But assuming they're properly bypassed, >an RF device rated for, 500 Mhz, will work perfectly well at 150 Mhz and >with more gain! <--I should add the caveat "with all things being equal", in that parameters such as input and output impedance, etc need to be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Paul Holm message virus

2006-02-06 Thread Tony VE6MVP
At 05:40 PM 2006-02-06 -0500, you wrote: Got a message on here from Paul Holm that had a virus. Might want to not open it if you haven’t already. Yes, it did have a virus but it almost certainly  didn't come from Paul Holm as viruses spoof the email address by grabbing another one from some emai

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Miller
Steve, Yes you can. This base uses 1 RF PA to drive 2 RF PA's. There is a splitter and combiner before the 2 PA's and after. You can remove the splitter and combiner but you will need to turn down the 1st PA. It is not hard to do but you would be best to run the as is, just lower the drive a littl

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 06:27 PM 2/6/2006 -0500, you wrote: >Are the transistors rate at 220 MHz? RF power transistors are made for a >specific frequency range and will not operate at all well above or below >the design frequency. <---I bet to differ, at least when it comes to using one at a lower frequency! RF po

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
Are the transistors rate at 220 MHz? RF power transistors are made for a specific frequency range and will not operate at all well above or below the design frequency. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 11:09 AM 02/06/06, you wrote: >Hello, > >Does anyone have a good way of measuring the frequency of PC boar

[Repeater-Builder] Dupelxer wierdness

2006-02-06 Thread safari_tim
I got a wierd problem going on.   I have a 440 repeater with a Sinclair Q3220E duplexer.   I used my Motorola 2600 with the tracking generator to tune it.   Then I checked the power.  Power in was around 38 watts, and the power out into the service monitor was around 16.  Or about -7.5 db insers

[Repeater-Builder] Paul Holm message virus

2006-02-06 Thread R. K. Brumback
    Got a message on here from Paul Holm that had a virus. Might want to not open it if you haven’t already. Randy B.   YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMA

[Repeater-Builder] Spectra Tac

2006-02-06 Thread radio5000
Does anyone have a couple extra SQMs for Spectra Tac for sale?   Thanks   Will YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject

Re: [Repeater-Builder] LM-386 audio buffer board

2006-02-06 Thread DCFluX
I'll draw the pattern if there is that much demand for them. Let me know if you all prefer standard gerber files or ExpressPCB.On 2/6/06, tony dinkel < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Did anybody ever cut a board for the LM-386 audio buffer project on the repeater builder web site?  I am getting tired

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF duplexer wanted

2006-02-06 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "lcradio2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anybody have a decent set of VHF duplexers for sale? I have a set of > bandpass duplexers on my 34/94 machine, and it just does not have > enough rejection. I would like to locate a set of bandpass/bandreject >

[Repeater-Builder] LM-386 audio buffer board

2006-02-06 Thread tony dinkel
Did anybody ever cut a board for the LM-386 audio buffer project on the repeater builder web site? I am getting tired of vector boarding the things. Thanks, td wb6mie Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Ken Arck
Yea, what Jeff said! :-) At 03:08 PM 2/6/2006 -0500, you wrote: >> >> Does anyone have a good way of measuring the frequency of >PC board micro >> strips (M/S)? > >I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Microstrips are basically just >sections of transmission line. A transmission line does

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:09 AM 2/6/2006 -0600, you wrote: >Does anyone have a good way of measuring the frequency of PC board micro >strips (M/S)? I have tried my old Millen Grid Dip meter but there is just >not enough radiated at 220 MHz to get a good dip. I am trying to modify a >transmitter from 168 MHz to 224 M

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Jeff DePolo
> > Does anyone have a good way of measuring the frequency of PC board micro > strips (M/S)? I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Microstrips are basically just sections of transmission line. A transmission line doesn't have a "frequency" - it has a length and a characteristic impedance.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread skipp025
You should email Kevin first, hasn't he done some of the micor vhf to 220 band conversions? I know a lot of the conversion people don't use the original Micor PA sections. After the low level rf stages they jump onto/use a replacement power amplifier module. >From my circa 1987 memory of mo

[Repeater-Builder] VHF duplexer wanted

2006-02-06 Thread lcradio2002
Anybody have a decent set of VHF duplexers for sale? I have a set of bandpass duplexers on my 34/94 machine, and it just does not have enough rejection. I would like to locate a set of bandpass/bandreject duplexer cavities for it. Thanks, Tracy Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your gr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd
Paul Finch wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone have a good way of measuring the frequency of PC board micro > strips (M/S)? I have tried my old Millen Grid Dip meter but there is just > not enough radiated at 220 MHz to get a good dip. I am trying to modify a > transmitter from 168 MHz to 224 MHz and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: uniden repeater help

2006-02-06 Thread skipp025
I've emailed you the location to download the service manual for the repeater. good luck skipp > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have a uniden repeater model# aru 251k and an in need of any info on it. I > want to set it up as a gmrs repeater.Unit looks great but I have no info. > HELP Th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some help with Motorola phone patch

2006-02-06 Thread Neil McKie
As I remember, the MCR100 is a motorcycle radio ... I have the Motorola Manual here 68P81021E65 ... the internal system picture looks like a trunk-mount version of a Mocom-35 to me. Model numbers include M33DFA with various variations for sufficies. Uses a K1040A Resonator (similar to

[Repeater-Builder] Micro Strips @ 220 MHz

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, Does anyone have a good way of measuring the frequency of PC board micro strips (M/S)? I have tried my old Millen Grid Dip meter but there is just not enough radiated at 220 MHz to get a good dip. I am trying to modify a transmitter from 168 MHz to 224 MHz and not having a lot of luck get

Re: [Repeater-Builder] uniden repeater help

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Haddix
Hi, Stephen, I have a copy of a copy of the srvice manual for the ARU251. If your not too particular, I could turn out another copy of it. It covers most of the pertinant information you would need in setting it up and tuning it up for the GMRS band. I have two of them running on that band for my r

[Repeater-Builder] WTB: 2 METER ANTENNA

2006-02-06 Thread bobby3c
Before I buy a new antenna let me know what you have for sale. Like to be within pickup range of Pittsburgh Pa. Email me the info. thanks Bob Bobby3c Hotmail.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To

[Repeater-Builder] Off brand antenna like the Comet GP-9

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, I think I have another brand of dual band (146/440) antenna similar to the Comet GP-9, I think it was Gensys or something like that. They are out of business now of course but this one has high SWR at 147 and gets better the lower in frequency you go which means it needs to be tuned a litt

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-06 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
> I am looking at acquiring a GE Master II UHF Base station. This is a 300 watt solid state transmitter, which how I understand it, has 2 PAs running in parallel. It's actually 200 watts, and yes, there are two "final" PA's, each capable of 100 watts output, that are combined. However, each "fina

[Repeater-Builder] uniden repeater help

2006-02-06 Thread kb1chu
I have a uniden repeater model# aru 251k and an in need of any info on it.  I want  to set it up as a gmrs repeater.Unit looks great but I have no info. HELP  Thanks KB1CHU YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.   To unsubscrib

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need suggestions for 460 repeater antenna

2006-02-06 Thread KFD29
Is there a VHF equivalent for this antenna?  Was looking at a DB224 but might be alittle to heavy for our mounting situation.       In a message dated 2/6/2006 1:17:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with Chuck. For the money, the DB-408 is the way to go. To

[Repeater-Builder] connectors

2006-02-06 Thread k5asl.1
anyone have some ld5a connectors for andrews 7/8? doesn't matter if n or pl etc thanks cd -- ++ K5ASL Charles F. Diamond   43 Jude Brewer Rd. Lumberton  Ms.  39455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sera.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II UHF Base Station

2006-02-06 Thread Steve Rubeck
That I am not sure... I am going to be picking up this equipment sometime this week and have to haul it home before I can check it out. All my knowledge thus far is what I have heard from 2 different GE Radio guys on the phone...Thanks! Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is the com

RE: [Repeater-Builder] KINDA OFF TOPIC NEED WAVETEK CT2100 MANUALS

2006-02-06 Thread dalite01
I have a manual for a CT Systems Model 2100 Service monitor. I have been told that Wavetek acquired CT Systems, so it should be the same if that info was correct. It is around 25 pages, and I could scan to a .PDF if it would help. David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: Repeater-Build

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Comet GP-9

2006-02-06 Thread Dave VanHorn
> Dave, > Doesn't The GP-9 have a cap in series in it somewhere? Isn't that a weak > point that breaks down with more than 50 watts? Maybe I'm thinking of a > different antenna. I think the gimmick is that this is functioning as a capacitor. It will be a pretty small value, 5pF or so by

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Exec II repeater, was 100.0 Hz GE Versatone

2006-02-06 Thread Ralph Hogan
Chuck, Its in the stock 6 mtr mobile mechanical configuration. This is my first 'mobile' version, so time will tell if desense is an issue at ~50W half power rating output :) Just got it finished and cooking on the bench last night. My main concern is that I'm going from a split site with uhf link

[Repeater-Builder] Info Needed: ECL Model 411 Repeater

2006-02-06 Thread David Little
This looks like a VHF Engineering repeater, with the addition of a metering system with associated switch. I have some VHF Engineering info that I have found from the web, and am looking for info on ECL. The front is labeled ECL Model 411. It is a 2m repeater with the PA Mounted on the u

[Repeater-Builder] attachment contains virus

2006-02-06 Thread Paul Holm
The email attachment vndszfcd.exe within price_lst.zip is infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web.   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Y

[Repeater-Builder] Re: VHF Micor and Link-comm RLC3

2006-02-06 Thread Steve Hutzley
Kevin, I have no clue. It has probably been 12-15 years since this thing was converted. I assume the channel elements were done professionally since the tag on top of the channel element has 146T85000 on it (146.850 MHz). Why do you ask? 73 Steve Message: 16 Date: Sun, 05 Feb 200

Re: [inbox] [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need some help with Motorola phone patch

2006-02-06 Thread Ellen Engle
Gaitronics bought out Instrument Associates LMR stuff. Good luck getting any manuals for the old IA stuff. Gaitronics had a couple of guys who were OK but has pretty much dropped support for the old IA equipment. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: