[Repeater-Builder] Power supply identification request.

2006-03-13 Thread zl3tda
Hi to all on the list. I have lurked for a while and always get a great deal from reading the various posts and infos that are posted. I now have a question for the group: I am wanting to get some information on a powersupply that I have, which is ex repeater use. It is a Motorola and is model

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Power supply identification request.

2006-03-13 Thread Bob M.
Look all over the chassis for another model number, probably on a yellow or orange sticker, something that starts with TPN. This almost sounds like a power supply for an MSF5000, but I'm sure there are other similar station supplies. Same number and size of fuses, and the equalize switch would

[Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
First, thanks to all who responded to my requests for info regarding interfacing the RC-210. The repeater is on the air and functioning reasonably well! I do have another question though... I have a cont.-duty PA (Micor cont duty on 40MHz split) for it, and the interconnect board I have does

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Cicirello
Mike, If the low band PA's are the same wiring configuration as the VHF Hi, there is a pin on the end of the Amp which must be grounded when you transmit. Other than that, it is just 12+, Exciter in and RF out. As I remember as you look at the component side of the amp, the pin is on the left end.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Thanks Jim, I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure. I had played with putting one of these amps on a 2m machine about 5yrs ago... but didn't recall just exactly how I made it play. There is a single pin below what looks to be metering attachments (4 each, in a parelellagram above it).

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Cicirello
Mike, How about getting the ground you need for the PA from your controller instead of the backplane? When the controller goes into PTT it gives you the timing you need, i.e. the tail, etc. If the controller goes to ground on the PTT, you could get your ground there. If it goes high, you could

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Yup, I was thinking the same thing... although I may use a small relay to accomplish this. Depending on how much current the RC-210 can sink to ground, gotta check on that. I don't want to toast the new controller... 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:41 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: Yup, I was thinking the same thing... although I may use a small relay to accomplish this. Depending on how much current the RC-210 can sink to ground, gotta check on that. I don't want to toast the new controller... ---The PTT output of the RC210 can

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Mike Perryman
Thanks Ken... no sooner looked that up than you chimed-in. Responsive as ever!! How much battery is required for the battery backup? Looks like it is diode protected so I don't have to worry about boiling (or worse) a small gel cell but wanted to check with you.. mike -Original

RE: [Repeater-Builder] A couple of Micor questions..

2006-03-13 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:55 PM 3/13/2006 -0500, you wrote: Thanks Ken... no sooner looked that up than you chimed-in. Responsive as ever!! How much battery is required for the battery backup? Looks like it is diode protected so I don't have to worry about boiling (or worse) a small gel cell but wanted to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-13 Thread Jim B.
Paul Yonge wrote: But this is GMRS-it MUST, by law, be CTCSS controlled. Are you sure about that? Yup. carrier squelch is illegal. DCS, even LTR is ok. But CSQ is VERY bad. -- Jim Barbour KAE9169 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-13 Thread Ric
Thanks to all those who responded. I think I will forgo the 805-D's and look for a small 'ready to go' repeater. Intended use is for my parked vehicle, on-site at flea markets, fair grounds, parks, etc. The reason I was looking at 805-ds was the ease of being able to change channels/pl's if

Re: [Repeater-Builder] internet via uhf commercial radio

2006-03-13 Thread Jim B.
Ian Wells wrote: Has anyone setup a wireless internet community where a group of users can use uhf radios and/or repeaters to communicate with a base station to access the internet instead of phone lines and what types of speeds can you expect? are there any good pages on this type of setup?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote: Kirk G. is selling tkr-820's cheap enough on ebay right now, but they don't include the controller. What a surprise some buyers are going to have when they learn the repeater is missing the repeater controller board. Well, that's pretty stupid. Why bother taking the board

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread Mark Tomany
I'm thinking that "Eric B" doesn't know that this repeaterhas an internal controller. He probably saw the empty Molex connector on the back panel and made an assumption - and we all know what hapens when we ASSUME... heheheMark - N9WYS"Jim B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: skipp025 wrote: Kirk

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread Mark Tomany
Sorry - I meant "Kirk G"..Mark Tomany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm thinking that "Eric B" doesn't know that this repeaterhas an internal controller. He probably saw the empty Molex connector on the back panel and made an assumption - and we all know what hapens when we ASSUME... hehehe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread Mark Tomany
Sorry - I meant "Krik G"..Mark Tomany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm thinking that "Eric B" doesn't know that this repeaterhas an internal controller. He probably saw the empty Molex connector on the back panel and made an assumption - and we all know what hapens when we ASSUME... hehehe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-13 Thread Dick
Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement for tone squelch... digital or CTCSS. I don't think tone squelch is require, but it sire is good common sense for a GMRS repeater. Dick - Original Message - From: Jim B. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 13

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread DCFluX
and we all know what hapens when we ASSUME... hehehe I think that was said best in a Stevan Segal movie. Under Seige Pt.2 The TKR-820 will just sit there like a dumb shit until the magic tone is played for it on the channel that the receiver is tuned to. Pull out the 8 pin EEProm that is on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Project advice

2006-03-13 Thread DCFluX
Yeah, just like it is the law for any 2M repeater on a mountain top to have PL on the receiver. Um, Right On 3/13/06, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I looked at the GMRS rules and don't see a requirement for tone squelch... digital or CTCSS. I don't think tone squelch is require,

[Repeater-Builder] Re Micor Questions

2006-03-13 Thread mike
Mike I have a lowband 100 watt continous duty PA on my Six meter repeater. You will need to locate the pin on input side of the Amp and ground it. I use it to control the repeater if I should need to shut it down. Mike W1ZFB Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread skipp025
Re: Kenwood TKR 820 I agree Jim, but some guys pull the boards and sell them on Ebay for about $50 each. If you don't think you'll ever need them, you generate another $50 income and run an external tone/ltr panel through the rear connector. cheers, skipp Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread skipp025
Kirk G. never assumes... He is the owner of Signature Wireless, one of the largest uhf trunking system owner ops in the Country. Some of you know him as one of the orignal people in Nextel before he sold out. I would assume he knows exactly what he has and why it's set up that way.

[Repeater-Builder] milcom amps

2006-03-13 Thread Steve Hutzley
Does anyone have any information/schematics on Milcom International amplifiers. I recently was given two of them, both in VHF service #1) Mod: LP10-10E1C1, FCC: E675JS0009, 10W in/100W out, 150 MHz #2) Mod: P18-40E1-C1L, FCC: E675JS0013, 40W in/180W out, 150-160 MHz 73 Steve

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel duplexer harness lengths

2006-03-13 Thread na6df
I have that same set. The folks who took over the decibel duplexer division tell me that the cable lengths don't change. Here is a copy and paste of my earlier posting: --Well, after a bunch of poking around, and calling DB/Allen Telecom/Andrews, they directed me to the new company who handles

Re: [Repeater-Builder] milcom amps

2006-03-13 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Steve Hutzley wrote: Does anyone have any information/schematics on Milcom International amplifiers. I recently was given two of them, both in VHF service #1) Mod: LP10-10E1C1, FCC: E675JS0009, 10W in/100W out, 150 MHz #2) Mod: P18-40E1-C1L, FCC: E675JS0013, 40W

[Repeater-Builder] Re: milcom amps

2006-03-13 Thread skipp025
The Milcom Amplifiers I have are all linear polyfet designs. I have converted some of the 220 ACSB repeater pa's over to FM with an increase in power output. If you sent me a good internal view picture, I could probably tell you if it's a linear mode amplifier. Good luck trying to get

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread John
DCFluX wrote: It is possible to brute force program the EEproms to what ever channel and tone you want without the KPT-50, check the archive for the threads from about 5 months ago. I checked the archives back to 1999 and couldn't find this. I'd be interested to findout more about it if you

[Repeater-Builder] photos of dead MASTR II PA

2006-03-13 Thread Nate Duehr
Everyone knows about the web page that talks about doing the modification to the MASTR II PA with a piece of braid between the final board and the low-pass filter board... http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/mastrIIparepair.html - And the page that talks about not driving the UHF PA into

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3664

2006-03-13 Thread N5IUF
More than likely the cause of your problemwas the connection between the two boards developed a cold solder joint and began to ark. This happens all the timewith thisPA. It may not have had anything to do with your load. If you have 70W going in and 4W reflected, that's about a 1.65:1

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 3664

2006-03-13 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than likely the cause of your problem was the connection between the two boards developed a cold solder joint and began to ark. This happens all the time with this PA. It may not have had anything to do with your load. If you have 70W going in and 4W

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread DCFluX
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/message/57016 On 3/13/06, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DCFluX wrote: It is possible to brute force program the EEproms to what ever channel and tone you want without the KPT-50, check the archive for the threads from about 5 months ago. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Decibel duplexer harness lengths

2006-03-13 Thread Jay Urish
I must have missed your earlier post. Thanks for the re-hash! Maybe tomorrow I wil get my buddy Chris to come over here with a network analyzer to see whazt the deal is.. My harnes is correct by your specs. na6df wrote: I have that same set. The folks who took over the decibel duplexer

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread John
DCFluX wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/message/57016 Thanks, I overlooked that one John, K4AG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread DCFluX
An NHRC-2 or NHRC-4 may fit there, but you should measure it to make sure. Plus you need a way to derive COS, so you may want to look at the NHRC squelch board or go with a Comspec PL board, or combonation of both. On 3/13/06, Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The 820 repeater I have

[Repeater-Builder] Info needed. 450 MHz, 75 Watt Amp Micor TLE1713A-3

2006-03-13 Thread George Sintchak
Micor series TLE1713A-3. Looking for schematics, metering info, etc. and/or a manual if you have one to spare or can copy part of a manual. For non-commercial use in an amatuer repeater. The amplifier seems to be working fine. 2 Watts in ~90+ max Watts out (un-controlled) at 449 MHz. I will

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-13 Thread Maxwell Pratt
If you make a harness for that antenna use RG-59 or RG-11 - 75 ohm Cable to get match , don't use RG-58 or RG-8 it won't work , and it doesn't have to be Cushcraft can be other brands many manufactures made them I have one made by Hy Gain it also has n connectors. Worked better than a lot of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread Paul Finch
DCFlux, I have plenty of ICS controllers as well as Comm Spec CTCSS boards but as I said it's set up for LTR, I may use it that way on my commercial tower. If there is a squelch gate you don't really need anything else. The NHRC squelch board may be faster but not that much. Thanks anyway,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR 820

2006-03-13 Thread skipp025
Controller boards on ebay all the time. Here's one about to close if you can get to it fast enough. Kenwood TKR-720/820 Repeater Control board NEW Item number: 5878202993 good luck skipp Paul Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The 820 repeater I have does not have a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 4 Bay antenna

2006-03-13 Thread no6b
At 3/13/2006 19:26, you wrote: If you make a harness for that antenna use RG-59 or RG-11 - 75 ohm Cable to get match , don't use RG-58 or RG-8 it won't work Why not? 2 50 ohm terminations (dipoles) T'd together make 25 ohms. Run two 1/4 wave multiples (3/4, 1 1/4, etc.) from each T to get

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radio ID

2006-03-13 Thread Don
I saw this Posted a SOUTHERN LINC MOTOROLA MOBILE BASE STATION is this Some Special Motorola radio You All Down south Use and is named after You, Only kidding but I have never heard of this Model. What is it ? Thanks Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the