Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-10 Thread Radiomf
I don't think there are any drain plugs on this antenna. connection seals were checked and re-done. I am not familiar with the desense tests, but both repeater and duplexer were replaced. New duplexer tested at more than 100 db isolation and power is about 75 watts .Problem must be with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-10 Thread petedcurtis
Have you swept the Antenna and Transmission Line with a Site analyzer or a Comms Analyzer / RF Bridge? Peter On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:35 AM, radi...@aol.com wrote: I don't think there are any drain plugs on this antenna. connection seals were checked and re-done. I am not familiar with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-10 Thread Radiomf
Yes it has been swept. (not by me, by someone who knows the commercial repeater business) Nothing found. But remember this is an intermittant thing. In a message dated 8/10/2010 9:50:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, petedcur...@gmail.com writes: Have you swept the Antenna and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-09 Thread Radiomf
Hi Kevin, The desense is a staticy reception of weaker signals( ie an HT at 25 miles) It had gotten worse as it started to affect strong signals too. If the transmitter was turned off, the repeater could hear just fine. Problem is intermittent and often followed a rainy day. We replaced

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-09 Thread Kevin Custer
radi...@aol.com wrote: Hi Kevin, The desense is a staticy reception of weaker signals( ie an HT at 25 miles) It had gotten worse as it started to affect strong signals too. If the transmitter was turned off, the repeater could hear just fine. Problem is intermittent and often followed a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-09 Thread petedcurtis
Hi, Juts a thought: Sometimes certain antennas have a drain plug at the bottom and sometime one at the top. You should remove the drain plug at the bottom for normal mounting or the one at the top for inverted mounting.If you don't water can ingress, then can't escape and build up.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-08 Thread Kevin Custer
radi...@aol.com wrote: Hi Kevin, I have confirmed that 2 of the 4 finals are bad. both are on one side of the push pull. Both open base connection One has collector to emitter short. The other open emitter. I have not yet checked the drivers I might be able to test them without removal. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-07 Thread Radiomf
Hi Kevin, I have confirmed that 2 of the 4 finals are bad. both are on one side of the push pull. Both open base connection One has collector to emitter short. The other open emitter. I have not yet checked the drivers I might be able to test them without removal. I have a friend trying to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-07 Thread Ron
I have a brand new - never used - TLD 1693 VHF amp that I purchased as a back up for a local club. I tried to find - buy - and substitute other final transistors and discovered - there are no more around. They had the MSR2000 repeater and this amp has the M1131 - M1133 - M1134 transistors in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-06 Thread Kevin Custer
radi...@aol.com wrote: Sucess! I completely cleaned and re tinned my Weller 8100 tip, added some solder, and got heat transfer to pop it up. I was not aware of the fish paper that the wires came thru. Now to troubleshoot the amp. It probably has some blown transistors as well as the cooked

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-06 Thread Kevin Custer
Tom Parker wrote: Why has no one suggested replacing the guts of this beast with a Mitrek PA? Why? Kevin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-05 Thread Radiomf
Sucess! I completely cleaned and re tinned my Weller 8100 tip, added some solder, and got heat transfer to pop it up. I was not aware of the fish paper that the wires came thru. Now to troubleshoot the amp. It probably has some blown transistors as well as the cooked caps and 12 ohm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-05 Thread Tom Parker
Why has no one suggested replacing the guts of this beast with a Mitrek PA? radi...@aol.com wrote: Sucess! I completely cleaned and re tinned my Weller 8100 tip, added some solder, and got heat transfer to pop it up. I was not aware of the fish paper that the wires came thru. Now to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-02 Thread Radiomf
Thanks Kevin, I think you are on to something. The areas that are pinned down seem to be close to where the power supply wires enter the board from the underside. I am wondering if the wires are glued down with RTV or something. Cautious prying is still not getting me anywhere. Marty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Custer
radi...@aol.com wrote: Thanks Kevin, I think you are on to something. The areas that are pinned down seem to be close to where the power supply wires enter the board from the underside. I am wondering if the wires are glued down with RTV or something. Cautious prying is still not getting me

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-02 Thread Radiomf
OK Kevin, I had already tried the desoldering with a really good Pace unit, but the heat did not transfer well. I will get a buddy to help and use my Weller guns. I have a big 250 watt one here somewhere. Marty

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Custer
radi...@aol.com wrote: OK Kevin, I had already tried the desoldering with a really good Pace unit, but the heat did not transfer well. I will get a buddy to help and use my Weller guns. I have a big 250 watt one here somewhere. Marty Let us know how you make out - or, if you need more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-02 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Motorola didn't do anyone any favors with that design. Same thing on the Micor PA. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-08-01 Thread Kevin Custer
martinfriedman67 wrote: Our Amateur radio club's Motorola MSR 2000 continuous duty amp needs repair. I cant figure out how to remove the amp board from the heat sink. I removed all screws from corners as well as the transistors. It seems to be held by the center, just below the tall air

[Repeater-Builder] Dissasembly of msr 2000 continuous duty amp. How?

2010-07-30 Thread martinfriedman67
Our Amateur radio club's Motorola MSR 2000 continuous duty amp needs repair. I cant figure out how to remove the amp board from the heat sink. I removed all screws from corners as well as the transistors. It seems to be held by the center, just below the tall air variable cap. I tried heating