RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
may be factory rejects. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:25 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-23 Thread Dennis Wade
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nj902 Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:54 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Jeff, What an excellent tutorial

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-23 Thread Yahoo
Have used this set http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20878 for hundreds of cables in varying sizes, mostly RF Industries connectors, crimped pin and furel, swept with Anritsu. Use the right connector for the right job paying attention to dissimilar metal properties, size etc. Take your time and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-23 Thread Al Wolfe
This is more of a FWIW comment. When I was in the USAF back in the 1960's we were not allowed to solder any wire splices in airplanes but rather, used gas-tight crimp connections for the job. The logic was that when stranded wire was soldered the solder would wick up to a point in the wire

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
Would anyone care to comment on and compare the tools offered by both Paladin and RF Industries, as well as the link earlier in this thread? Not cheap, but not the several hundred dollars either as quoted by someone above. OK, here's probably more than you ever wanted to know about crimp

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
The standard Kings frame is KTH-1000. The Daniels HX4 is basically a clone of the Kings KTH-5000. Kings, Daniels, et al make other models, but the KTH-5000 is the most common style. Sorry. Replace KTH-5000 with KTH-1000 in the above paragraph...

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-22 Thread de W5DK
I have never met Jeff or crimped RF connectors but now I feel like an expert! Thanks Jeff. Don Kirchner W5DK

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
I'd like that information also. I know that some of the more technically proficient hams out there who do RF design / installation for a living use crimp only connectors, and swear by them. Are there other vendors out there that people have used which are comparable to the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-22 Thread nj902
Jeff, What an excellent tutorial. This should be a permanent article on the Repeater-buiilder site! Adding some pictures of the various crimp tools and the crimping process would make it complete. BTW - for those looking to buy one of these tools - although the Daniels HX4 and Kings

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-22 Thread Jeff DePolo
] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Jeff, What an excellent tutorial. This should be a permanent article on the Repeater-buiilder site! Adding some pictures of the various crimp tools and the crimping process would make it complete. BTW - for those looking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Joe
Many of these connectors show up at hamfests with no instructions, sometimes with very vague identification markings. I was just wondering if anyone had a simpler way to get the information than browsing many sites looking for information. Joe Barry wrote: It never occurred to me in fact

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Barry
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: k1ike_m...@snet.net Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:56:41 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Many of these connectors show up at hamfests

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Many of these connectors show up at hamfests with no instructions, sometimes with very vague identification markings. I was just wondering if anyone had a simpler way to get the information than browsing many sites looking

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Joe
Yes, buying at a hamfest can be a great savings, if you know what you are buying. That's exactly why I am asking this question. Knowing what you are buying is always the key to success at a hamfest. Those who get disappointed are usually the impulse buyers or those who have not done their

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Lee Pennington
I agree with Joe. I've been successfully buying and selling at Hamfests for years. It always seems that the lids and ticket holders have worst luck with their impulse buying. IMHO. *Real *Hams know the score. de Lee K4LJP 73 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Dennis Wade
In an attempt to bring this thread back.grin... Would anyone care to comment on and compare the tools offered by both Paladin and RF Industries, as well as the link earlier in this thread? Not cheap, but not the several hundred dollars either as quoted by someone above. I've had the same

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Dennis Wade sacramento.cycl...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors In an attempt to bring this thread back.grin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I use Paladin. Seems to be a popular brand. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors I'd

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-21 Thread Barry
:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Yes, buying at a hamfest can be a great savings, if you know what you are buying. That's exactly why I am asking this question. Knowing what you are buying is always the key

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Yahoo
. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: w9xt...@sbcglobal.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:01:03 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors My experience has been that if you use a high quality cable

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Barry
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors I wonder what you call not cheap? I paid lots for my soldering station and much less for my crimps ($80.00) as example for coax , the current crimps have done many thousands of connectors and might be replaced before

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
, NY facility for many years. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Barry ate...@hotmail.com To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Tells me little , worth every

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
5:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Years ago, TX/RX Systems studied crimped connectors and concluded that a properly crimped RF connector (center pin soldered) provided a superior mechanical

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Richard
] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Also, the Air Force did a similar study and concluded the same thing with crimped center pins. When properly

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors   Top quality crimpers are a must, though.   Richard www.n7tgb.net   The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. -Margaret Thatcher

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Joe
Here's a question: Where do you get the cable preparation for the crimp-on connectors. Connectors that we have ordered from Tessco, etc, come in a bag but with no installation instructions. Joe Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Absolutely. The words ‘properly installed’ are key!

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Here's a question: Where do you get the cable preparation for the crimp-on connectors. Connectors that we have ordered from Tessco, etc, come in a bag but with no installation instructions. Joe Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote: Absolutely

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Barry
-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors Here's a question: Where do you get the cable preparation for the crimp-on connectors. Connectors that we have ordered from Tessco, etc, come in a bag but with no installation instructions. Joe Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote

[Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-19 Thread w9xt...@sbcglobal.net
My experience has been that if you use a high quality cable, high quality connector and crimping dies made specifically for the particular cable and connectors...crimp-on will working very well. It won't be cheap though. I have, when practical, soldered the connector tip to the cable...after

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors

2009-07-19 Thread Barry
. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: w9xt...@sbcglobal.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:01:03 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors My experience has been that if you use a high quality cable, high quality connector