Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-12-09 Thread Cowboy
On Saturday 08 December 2012 08:04:25 pm James Harrison wrote: > That said, unless you have good reason to use 44100Hz... :-) > Every CD in the world is 44.1 seems a valid reason. -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com Expense Accounts, n.: Corporate food stamps. _

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-12-08 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OpenOB at no point is even aware of the sample rate it's running at (well, GStreamer under the hood is, but the app isn't). It'll just use your sound card/JACK sample rate by default. If your sound card is running at 44100Hz, it'll use that. That said

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-12-08 Thread Fernando Della Torre
Hello Folks! Everything is working as I need by now but it is running at 48khz, is there a way t change the sample rate of OpenOB? Regards. Atenciosamente, ** ** *Fernando Della Torre* Tecnologia da Informação (: +55 16 8137-1240 (: +55 16 9137-2886 *: *f...@vdit.com.br* V.D

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-11-30 Thread Fernando Della Torre
Hi, the answers go down,. Thank you so much for helping, Cheers, 2012/11/30 > Hi, > > How much memory is in your desktops? If they're low on memory (512MB or > less) it could be something as simple as a resource / memory issue, > especially if there is something running in the background e

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-11-30 Thread ltyndale
Hi, How much memory is in your desktops? If they're low on memory (512MB or less) it could be something as simple as a resource / memory issue, especially if there is something running in the background eating up cpu / memory. Are your onboard sound cards based on the Intel audio chipset? I've

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-11-29 Thread Fernando Della Torre
Hello again James, Thank you so much for your reply and such helpfull information! I'll read all the info on these links you suplied, than you again! Atenciosamente, ** ** *Fernando Della Torre* Tecnologia da Informação (: +55 16 8137-1240 (: +55 16 9137-2886 *: *f...@vdit.com.b

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-11-29 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Couple of things can affect delay. Sound cards is one thing - the jitter buffer in OpenOB is the other. By default this is 150ms, suitable for decent Internet links, and is tweaked with the -j option on the transmitter. -j 5 should be fine on fast ethe

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-11-29 Thread Fernando Della Torre
Hello James, This is my very first time experience with OpenOB. I have set up 2 old IBM P4 HT 3Ghz desktops running Wheezy and installed OpenOB on both. They are running OpenOB on the onboard sound cards through ALSA over a 100Mbit fast ethernet. Using 96kbps Opus I get 390ms of delay, and using

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-28 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Technically OpenVPN can run in TCP or UDP modes, but UDP is the default. Cheers, James Harrison On 27/10/2012 23:03, Rob Landry wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012, James Harrison wrote: > >> Unfortunately, SSH is a TCP based protocol. RTP is a UDP b

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-27 Thread Rob Landry
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012, James Harrison wrote: > Unfortunately, SSH is a TCP based protocol. RTP is a UDP based protocol > and with good reason - packet loss is fine and expected (Opus has packet > loss concealment and forward error correction, both of which are made > use of for OpenOB). So you nee

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I absolutely agree on all counts. Cheers for the feedback, all! Cheers, James Harrison On 26/10/2012 18:12, Cowboy wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2012 12:33:19 pm Fred Gleason wrote: >> I think it'd be sufficient to make OpenOB do network audio >> tra

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread Cowboy
On Friday 26 October 2012 12:33:19 pm Fred Gleason wrote: > I think it'd be sufficient to make OpenOB do network audio transmission well. >  Packet encryption/tunneling/whatever are not properly within its scope.   > There are lots of other packages that can provide those functionalities in a > l

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread Fred Gleason
On Oct 26, 2012, at 09:41 50, James Harrison wrote: > I'd rather have this outboard on something like a Mikrotik Routerboard (which > can > handle the IP routing and encryption and all that jazz). That's certainly the Un*x philosophy: a tool that does one thing well, rather than huge monster m

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread Cowboy
On Friday 26 October 2012 09:41:50 am James Harrison wrote: > and it might be easier to > just design OpenOB with the assumption Of course it would be easier !! It would be easier to just assume it will always be run across a Microsoft VPN, too, and let Microsoft worry about how or whether it

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, -w just plugs SSH into tun devices, and I'm relatively certain that it'll result in packet fragmentation (which will happen with most tunneling protocols, but that's something I need to check). Plus the overhead of encryption and decryption is

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread Frederick Henderson
He is right, James. I might add that if you get things working on the command line there is a config file that you can setup the ports you want to connect every time you ssh into a host. That means you don't have to remember a long commplicated command a mile long. Frederick On Thu, 25 Oct

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread Gary Hodder
> You don't even need a static IP, but you do need a domain name > that can track dynamic DNS in that case. > A domain names can be spoofed, fire walling by ip is safer. Cheers Gary. ___ Rivendell-dev mailing list Rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread Cowboy
On Friday 26 October 2012 04:06:18 am James Harrison wrote: > So you need a UDP based tunnel, See the -w option in man ssh. There are a number of ways to accomplish UDP via SSH. -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com "You've got to think about tomorrow!" "TOMORROW! I haven't even prepared for *

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-26 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately, SSH is a TCP based protocol. RTP is a UDP based protocol and with good reason - packet loss is fine and expected (Opus has packet loss concealment and forward error correction, both of which are made use of for OpenOB). So you need a U

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Cowboy
On Tuesday 23 October 2012 04:10:10 am James Harrison wrote: > Since most outside broadcasts want talkback functionality anyway, I want > to implement firewall/NAT tunneling to get around the same problem on > the transmitter end (because you need an audio link from RX to TX for > talkback), whi

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Wayne Merricks
Its fairly simple to set up too. -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of ltynd...@tyndaleweb.com Sent: Wed 24/10/2012 16:22 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release Hi, Instead of trying to incorpor

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Dan Mills
On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 17:29 -0200, Daniel Roviriego wrote: > The talkback option would be a must! > Thanks for sharing James! I was (some years back) playing with an add in to CAED that appeared as a switcher for accepting audio over IP in various forms, you set up an entry as a URL and could to t

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Daniel Roviriego
The talkback option would be a must! Thanks for sharing James! cheers 2012/10/24 James Harrison > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > This is very much where I want to get OpenOB to. Lots of my work > (dabbling at weekends) has been in modularizing the code; next comes the > e

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 apt-X is actually inferior to Opus from what I've heard. Opus is the maturation of the CELT and SILK codecs, is patent-unencumbered and open, and is an IETF standard: http://www.opus-codec.org/ and http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6716 - it's also damn

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is very much where I want to get OpenOB to. Lots of my work (dabbling at weekends) has been in modularizing the code; next comes the extraction of the user interface (mostly there now) so the backend can be dropped into a PyGTK app with friendly

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread ltyndale
Hi, Instead of trying to incorporate a silence detection into something like OpenOB, why not just set up something like SilentJack on the receiving end to do that? This would seem fairly trivial to set up, you could probably even pipe your receiving end of OpenOB through Jack and have Silentjack

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Hoggins!
Hello, It looks really interesting, and we'll have a look into that ! We currently use our own-flavored Gstreamer application, with CELT encoded RTP packets, hooked into JACK on both ends, for our live presentations outside of the studio, and it works quite well. But as it is made so far, it requi

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Rob Landry
...Opus codec? That's a new one to me. How does it compare with AAC, Ogg, and MPEG? I'd love to see apt-X become available some day. The patents must be running out one of these days. Rob On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, James Harrison wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know a

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-24 Thread Gary Hodder
> Being a little security conscious you should be firewalling the hell out of > the transmitter which leaves you with 3 obvious routes: > > 1. Set up a site to site VPN (doable but introduces latency and processing > cost) > 2. Open the ports on the transmitter firewall (which to my mind is a

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread Wayne Merricks
Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of Wayne Merricks Sent: Wed 24/10/2012 01:55 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: RE: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release Use case wise, we farm out our transmission to WRN in London (they take

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread Wayne Merricks
ndell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release Since most outside broadcasts want talkback functionality anyway, I want to implement firewall/NAT tunneling to get around the same problem on the transmitter end (because you need an audio link from RX to TX for tal

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread Morten Krarup Nielsen
Maybe it could be optional. You could provide the option to run a script when the internet is down, and another script when your online again. Anyway, I will test this software, as it looks promising. /Morten 2012/10/23 James Harrison : > My gut feeling is that OpenOB shouldn't be responsible for

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread James Harrison
My gut feeling is that OpenOB shouldn't be responsible for this - you should have a silence detector outboard of the PC in any transmission system with a standalone hardware audio player for reliability. Cheers, James Harrison On 23/10/12 15:31, Morten Krarup Nielsen wrote: > This looks very i

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread Morten Krarup Nielsen
This looks very interesting. This could be a cool new feature, if you use it for STL, and the internet connection is lost: What about adding a silence detector function, where the receiver plays MP3 files, until the connection to the studio is reestablished? Kind regards, Morten 2012/10/22 Jame

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread Alan Peterson
I just came off a three-hour remote connecting New Mexico with Arlington, VA. on Friday, using AudioTX Communicator. I didn't get to use it for very long, but it got my attention for sure. http://www.audiotx.com/communicator.html And its about half the price of a dedicated IP codec cuz (presuma

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-23 Thread James Harrison
me off list to save spamming RD (if necessary). Regards, Wayne -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org on behalf of James Harrison Sent: Mon 22/10/2012 22:27 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-22 Thread Sharkie
2/10/2012 22:27 > To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System > Subject: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I know a few Rivendellers have used the earlier (beta) versions of > OpenOB in the past so here's

Re: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-22 Thread Wayne Merricks
ellaudio.org on behalf of James Harrison Sent: Mon 22/10/2012 22:27 To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System Subject: [RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know a few Rivendellers have used the earlier (beta) versions of OpenOB in the past so

[RDD] OpenOB 2.3 release

2012-10-22 Thread James Harrison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I know a few Rivendellers have used the earlier (beta) versions of OpenOB in the past so here's a quick notice to all that OpenOB 2.3 is out, with stable support for the Opus codec recently standarized by the IETF, which supports bitrates as low as 1