alex wallis schrieb:
Hi list.
I was wondering, is there any chance of getting fs #10311 commited
please?
as Its a very small change, but I find it an extremely useful patch as
it means I can navigate quickly, and if I no something is at one end
of a list or menu I can tell instantly when I
On 14.06.2009 14:27, Thomas Martitz wrote:
alex wallis schrieb:
Hi list.
I was wondering, is there any chance of getting fs #10311 commited
please?
[...]
I too think it should be committed, but as of now, it doesn't provide a
setting and will beep for sighted users too.
But with a
*In data 13/06/2009 20:03, Bryan Childs ha scritto*:
The *only* way to brick an ipod is to perform a hard reset whilst it's
performing an *Apple* firmware upgrade. You simply cannot do it with
Rockbox tools, it's ALWAYS possible to recover it.
My experience learnt to me that absolute
On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:46, Al Le wrote:
On 14.06.2009 14:27, Thomas Martitz wrote:
alex wallis schrieb:
Hi list.
I was wondering, is there any chance of getting fs #10311 commited
please?
[...]
I too think it should be committed, but as of now, it doesn't provide a
setting and
Antony Stone schrieb:
On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:46, Al Le wrote:
On 14.06.2009 14:27, Thomas Martitz wrote:
alex wallis schrieb:
Hi list.
I was wondering, is there any chance of getting fs #10311 commited
please?
[...]
I too think it should be committed, but as of
Thomas Martitz wrote:
That seems like a good idea to me, I was always in favor of some kind
of Turn on accessibility features setting :)
Best regards.
Accessibility features shouldn't be grouped as a single setting, nor
should they be named accessibility if they aren't exclusively used for
On Sunday 14 June 2009 14:40, Paul Louden wrote:
This setting shouldn't be dependent upon voice. There's no reason to
force it on people using voice who don't want beeps too.
On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:46, Al Le wrote:
But with a setting it will be considered settings bloat and will have
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Antony
Stoneantony.st...@rockbox.open.source.it wrote:
On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:46, Al Le wrote:
Why not use the same setting as for speech on/off?
Why not use the beep setting we already have? That beep setting
currently only affects skipping in the wps, but
On Sunday 14 June 2009 15:49, Dominik Riebeling wrote:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Antony
Stoneantony.st...@rockbox.open.source.it wrote:
On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:46, Al Le wrote:
Why not use the same setting as for speech on/off?
Why not use the beep setting we already have? That
Antony Stone wrote:
Is the problem with yet another setting the storage space required to
remember it, or the menu complexity required to provide access to it?
The memory involved should be trivial compared to any code implementing
the new feature. Settings bloat generally refers to the
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They're simply two very different notifications, they just happen to both
beep as their means of notifying you. That being said, I'm not really sure
I understand why an end-of-list beep is necessary. If you're looking at
the screen, it obviously isn't. If you're managing blind and using
Hello to all Rockbox developers,
this week I advanced in the startup process of Pure Data. Quite a lot of
files were changed, most were added to the FlySpray task #10244, some
remained in the working copy. In the file pdbox-func.c (see FlySpray
task) I added some missing functions. Also, an
alex wallis wrote:
I have found in the past that doing that can some times crash the
player, but also this is not a very efficient way for a blind user to
navigate, as if you are just holding down the joystick and looking for
particular things you could easily miss them. at the moment, lists
Am 14.06.2009 22:50, schrieb Paul Louden:
No, if you hold down the button it stops at the end of the list. If
you were looking for an item IN the list, you wouldn't reach the end
and need the beep anyway. If you wanted to reach the end, you just
hold the button down and as soon as spelling /
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
I can imagine that it speeds up browsing for the blinds. And that's
what Alex is reporting. Why can't you believe it?
Best regards,
I'm trying to understand exactly how this feature is used because so far
he's only described it as it lets me identify the end of the
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
Why can't you believe it?
Asking someone to explain why they find something useful *in no way*
implies that you don't believe that they find it useful.
Alex
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Alex Parkerparker.ale...@gmail.com wrote:
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
Why can't you believe it?
Asking someone to explain why they find something useful *in no way* implies
that you don't believe that they find it useful.
One can go even one step further: asking
Am 14.06.2009 23:27, schrieb Dominik Riebeling:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Alex Parkerparker.ale...@gmail.com wrote:
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
Why can't you believe it?
Asking someone to explain why they find something useful *in no way* implies
that you don't believe
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
Am 14.06.2009 23:27, schrieb Dominik Riebeling:
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Alex Parkerparker.ale...@gmail.com wrote:
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
Why can't you believe it?
Asking someone to explain why they find something useful *in no way* implies
that
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
I can imagine that it speeds up browsing for the blinds. And that's what
Alex is reporting. Why can't you believe it?
Best regards,
I'm trying to understand exactly how this feature is used because so far
he's only described it as it lets me identify the end of
alex wallis wrote:
however I just did a test, and once I was holding the joystick in a
given direction to scroll through the menu, the speech wasn't playing,
which I would find annoying if it was constantly trying to say things.
The only reason I knew scrolling to the end of the main menu
alex wallis wrote:
however I just did a test, and once I was holding the joystick in a given
direction to scroll through the menu, the speech wasn't playing, which I
would find annoying if it was constantly trying to say things. The only
reason I knew scrolling to the end of the main menu
alex wallis wrote:
it would be solved but it would lead to slower browsing.
as at the moment, I hear the beep from the patch and I know instantly
I have reached the end of the menu or list.
however, if the speech started to play for the last item in the list,
I feel I would take longer to
Usecase:
I am using rockbox with voice files i have each file with a voice tag, I
want to get to a song beginning with S. Lets say we have 1000 songs, I
can scroll and then stop periodically to listen to my current location
(slow). I will know when i am near or far away from the song i want.
We
Thomas Lloyd wrote:
I do it forward as a clockwise rotation on the E200 is more comfortable
to achieve than anticlockwise. So a beep at the end of the list could
come in very useful.
Why can't you scroll up a single entry exactly? If you scroll down to
the beep, you then still *have* to scroll
Am 14.06.2009 23:49, schrieb Alex Parker:
So perhaps instead of saying something inflamatory like Why can't you
believe it? you could have said that, and then pointed to where he
explained it?
(1) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10311
(2)
Am 15.06.2009 00:30, schrieb Paul Louden:
Thomas Lloyd wrote:
I do it forward as a clockwise rotation on the E200 is more comfortable
to achieve than anticlockwise. So a beep at the end of the list could
come in very useful.
Why can't you scroll up a single entry exactly? If you scroll down to
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
Am 14.06.2009 23:49, schrieb Alex Parker:
So perhaps instead of saying something inflamatory like Why can't you
believe it? you could have said that, and then pointed to where he
explained it?
(1) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10311
(2)
Thomas Martitiz wrote:
You're not always at the very beginning of a list. Rockbox remembers
the selection, which makes scrolling just 1 item up impossible then.
This is true if you back out of a folder. So now we're in a situation
where someone is backing out of a sub-list, and wants to
BH
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Tomer Shalev shalev.to...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello Rockboxers,
snip
I had used an USB analyzer device in the past, but now I no longer have
such, and it is much harder for me to work without such device, therefore I
need any kind of help from those who are
Am 15.06.2009 01:07, schrieb Paul Louden:
No matter who's doing the talking, nobody can say this is the best
solution to the problem without first defining the scope of the
problem. Since the only problem described seems to be getting to the
bottom of the list there are much faster ways to
alex wallis wrote:
[snip]
Hi Paul I understand you want to know why I find this patch useful.
Well I actually didn't know that holding the joystick in a given
direction continuously would take me to the end of a list and stop me
there,
as a side note, perhaps the manual should be updated to
Paul Louden wrote:
Thomas Lloyd wrote:
I do it forward as a clockwise rotation on the E200 is more comfortable
to achieve than anticlockwise. So a beep at the end of the list could
come in very useful.
Why can't you scroll up a single entry exactly? If you scroll down to
the beep, you then
Paul Louden wrote:
Thomas Lloyd wrote:
I do it forward as a clockwise rotation on the E200 is more comfortable
to achieve than anticlockwise. So a beep at the end of the list could
come in very useful.
Why can't you scroll up a single entry exactly? If you scroll down to
the beep, you then
Apologies for the double post. Thunderbird gave me the impression the
post didn't go out as it was still sitting in the drafts folder. I
should have been more patient and checked the sent folder instead. In
any case, I want to make a further comment below.
Andrew Hart wrote:
Having a
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