Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: Lastly I'll remind the people that need reminding that everyone here is doing it as a hobby, when it doesnt become fun anymore people leave. The only people who could be considered having any authority to activly force someone to work on something (or not work on

Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Jonathan Gordon
On 9 October 2010 22:32, Dave Chapman d...@dchapman.com wrote: But my personal view is that features should only be added to Rockbox when there is a general concensus that it is a good idea.  When 95% of devs don't express an opinion on a new feature, then I would read that as saying we don't

Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Daniel Stenberg
On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Jonathan Gordon wrote: We really need to have a proper discussion on how to get consensus/agreement from the (active) dev group. My suggestion for what's required to get a new feature added: Three devs (expressed) in favour (+1), and none being against (-1) given enough

Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 08:50:59PM +1100, Jonathan Gordon wrote: the replies there were about relatively harmless bugs which affect a very small proportion of users. Maybe. Do we have real information on that? I think there have been two issues (or classes of issues) mentioned in the thread:

Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Dave Chapman
Jonathan Gordon wrote: On 9 October 2010 22:32, Dave Chapman d...@dchapman.com wrote: But my personal view is that features should only be added to Rockbox when there is a general concensus that it is a good idea. When 95% of devs don't express an opinion on a new feature, then I would read

Re: iPod Radio Remote bug

2010-10-09 Thread Bertrik Sikken
On 11-9-2010 10:13, Trevor Halsey wrote: I recent bought the iPod Radio Remote accessory and was thrilled to see that it was supported in rockbox but then I went to use it and realized the radio was useless in rockbox unless you were recording. When I go into the FM Tuner and choose a

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Paul Louden
On 10/9/2010 7:39 AM, Daniel Stenberg wrote: Three devs (expressed) in favour (+1), and none being against (-1) given enough time to react (ie more than 24 hours). If there's anyone agaist it, there must be reasons specified for the negative vote and there should be a discussion for what's

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 09 October 2010 at 17:15, Paul Louden wrote: In terms of objections, thought, you also need to be careful. With reasons specified for the negative vote then you'll just get into an argument over whether the reasons specified are valid or not. Is this feature could be implemented

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 09.10.2010 14:39, Daniel Stenberg wrote: My suggestion for what's required to get a new feature added: Three devs (expressed) in favour (+1), and none being against (-1) given enough time to react (ie more than 24 hours). If there's anyone agaist it, there must be reasons specified for

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Paul Louden
On 10/9/2010 1:22 PM, Antony Stone wrote: Then if more people agree with the objection than agree with the feature being implemented, it gets abandoned. The clearer the argument for rejecting, and the better the reason/s, the more likely it is that the feature gets thrown out, just as the

Re: Release 3.7, freeze on monday

2010-10-09 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 11:51:23PM +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 02:40:59PM +0200, Frank Gevaerts wrote: I'll go through the list later today and try to identify further blockers. FS#11592 %pf (Player: full line progress bar) not working If I understand this

Re: Segfault with Faster MDCT patch and -fPIC

2010-10-09 Thread Thomas Martitz
On 17.09.2010 09:32, Slawomir Testowy wrote: Hi all! For some time I have been using tremor with fastermdct patch found on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FasterMDCT. This patch gives huge speedup on i686/x86_64 machines and smaller, but still significant, speedup on ARM. Everything works great

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 09 October 2010 at 21:38, Paul Louden wrote: On 10/9/2010 1:22 PM, Antony Stone wrote: Then if more people agree with the objection than agree with the feature being implemented, it gets abandoned. The clearer the argument for rejecting, and the better the reason/s, the

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Jonathan Gordon
On 9 October 2010 23:39, Daniel Stenberg dan...@haxx.se wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010, Jonathan Gordon wrote: We really need to have a proper discussion on how to get consensus/agreement from the (active) dev group. My suggestion for what's required to get a new feature added: Three devs

Re: Getting agreements

2010-10-09 Thread Paul Louden
On 10/10/2010 12:05 AM, Jonathan Gordon wrote: P.S Extra bureaucracy is bad! I really think the only thing that needs changing is peoples attitudes and reactions to something they aren't entirely happy with. Everything is version controlled so a civil discussion post commit is just as valid as